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Had a bit of an experiment today, to see if I can minimise the service panel in the Dino King cabs even further. I settled on a location on the left of the cab, above the coin box.

With some chopping down of the service panel metal and drilling a few holes so fixing bolts can be attached, I can sneak it into place under the upper shelf support, attached to the side cab metalwork.
I should be able to keep both shelves free for larger game boards up top, an MVS mobo in the middle, and space at the bottom for something else like smaller PCBs or a Pi-JAMMA kit.



I have a couple of issues though... to fit the service panel here means I have to cut off the right hand side beyond the sticker & service button. This means I lop off the current support 'foot' for the panel - once done, it can never be used horizontally ever again Confused

Also does the service panel have to be electrically isolated from the cabinet metal? It was originally on an MDF shelf and has 100V+ going through it for the monitor deguass + power switches. But the panel itself is fully earthed, and was originally bolted to all manner of internal metal plating that separated the ticket dispenser area from the game boards and transformer, and was connected to the cabinet metal anyway.

Hmmm.....


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Flinnster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 2:58am
Well the hot-swappable panels are now done. Seems to have taken an age to get the cab looms spliced, connectored and then do the same for the CPs. They can now be unplugged and re-connected at will for whatever game setup is required. The button colours are all a bit random for now, while I play with various theming ideas.

I now turn my attention to the 4th cab (currently with Mushi King bezel on it), which is blowing the plug fuse.. much experimentation needed to find out what it is exactly..



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Good stuff there pal. Looking forward to seeing what you do with number 4.

Have you fathomed out the fuse issue yet?
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Sadly not had a chance to mess with the fuse issue much. I've swapped over the mains filter box itself with another cab for now and I'm seeing if the issue moves to the other cab or not.
 
If not I have some 7amp fuses to see if it's just down to a startup surge when powering up.

Beyond that I'll have to swap out the transformer to see if that's the issue. Finally I have the option to bypass the mains filter completely. I had a quick look for replacements but there's nothing with the same values as the ones Sega used unfortunately.

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I had a bad filter box on my phoenix years ago that kept knocking out fuses. Swapped it out and it's been great for years.
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Originally posted by virtvic virtvic wrote:

I had a bad filter box on my phoenix years ago that kept knocking out fuses. Swapped it out and it's been great for years.


I have a feeling whatever the issue is it's going to be a right old pain in arse to replace isn't it LOL

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I've had 2 problems like that with the Dino's I've converted, 1 was the mains filter had gone bad and kept tripping the RCD, and the other one was from one of the longer wired power connections inside that wasn't being used anymore once I'd converted it also tripping the RCD, once I removed all the superfluous power wiring it stopped.
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Not done much of an update in ages. So here's just a little pic of the current lineup this afternoon.
Soak testing cab #4 with a replaced ISO transformer to see if the fuse holds:


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Looking good!   Out of interest, which joysticks do you tend to go for?  

I've got my Dino running mame and with a Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT and I've set it to 4-way, but I'm finding that it has problems with the directions sometimes. 

I was wondering if it's worth spending more on a better stick.



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I've got both Sanwa's and Seimitsu's on these. 
The Sanwa is a JLF like yours and the Seimitsu's are a mix of LS32's and LS55's.
Pretty much all the joysticks are refurbs from 2nd hand sticks bought on the forums.

If you are having control issues, maybe worth setting the joystick gates to 8-way before buying replacements? Depends what game you are running on emulation though I suppose.




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Wanted: - PCBs: Rainbow Islands, Rolling Thunder, Original Wonderboy PCB
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Great seeing what I line up of them looks like, will have my 4 the same eventually, I really love this little cabs now, loads of cabs but not much space taken

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And then... there were 5... Cool



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Just a teeny update.
The side holes always bugged me a little on my Dino Kings. The three on each side where the original security bar was in place.

So I finally ordered a few bolts to cap these off. I spent a good while looking for white plastic ones, but no joy.
These work quite well, but I guess I should spray the heads gloss white to match the paintwork:



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Not updated here in a while so I thought I'd stick up some recent bits I've been working on for the recent Revival X event that went off last weekend!

It was decided that my 3rd cab would become a 'Bubble Bobble' dedicated for the event, so I set to work sorting out the artwork.
A few people have asked what my process is for doing the custom art - basically I gather as many scans of flyers, marquees and manuals as possible and quickly lay out the elements in sketch / outline form to get a feel for where I want them to be.
Then I go round cleaning up and redrawing each element until I'm happy with them - ultimately trying to get the art to look like it was originally designed to be that way. A homage to the originals - but a modern take on them.

Bubble Bobble was mainly a case of cleaning up outlines and adding decent colours after working from a high resolution but badly coloured scan, but I also had to scour Japanese Famicom manuals for the instruction strips, given the aim was to make this a Japanese version of the cab.





Once complete the artwork was printed onto card, and the original Dino King artwork carefully removed using a hairdryer.
With the plastic cleaned and polished up, it's simply taped into place with masking tape.
A few buttons changed to match the colours of Bub & Bob and voila!



I'm really happy the result - here's how it looked at Revival in the mini-cab lineup:










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Top work Dave, I love it, the button colour choice is an inspired touch!
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top job, your line up of Dino's looked great at revival.

Really liked seeing and having a blast on the Asteroids one too.

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Originally posted by Flinnster Flinnster wrote:

Not updated here in a while so I thought I'd stick up some recent bits I've been working on for the recent Revival X event that went off last weekend!

It was decided that my 3rd cab would become a 'Bubble Bobble' dedicated for the event, so I set to work sorting out the artwork.
A few people have asked what my process is for doing the custom art - basically I gather as many scans of flyers, marquees and manuals as possible and quickly lay out the elements in sketch / outline form to get a feel for where I want them to be.
Then I go round cleaning up and redrawing each element until I'm happy with them - ultimately trying to get the art to look like it was originally designed to be that way. A homage to the originals - but a modern take on them.

Bubble Bobble was mainly a case of cleaning up outlines and adding decent colours after working from a high resolution but badly coloured scan, but I also had to scour Japanese Famicom manuals for the instruction strips, given the aim was to make this a Japanese version of the cab.

Would it be possible to get a copy of the artwork (or just a size template) you used for the new artwork?
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