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    Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 2:09pm
Prompted by another thread, I've just got a Quest and am loving it. Really enjoying playing VR pinball. Playing the E.T. pin and having E.T. himself standing by the table watching you as you play is a bit freaky, though. LOL

I have an Amazon Prime account so thought I'd give the Amazon Prime VR app a try, but didn't really see the point of watching stuff on a VR headset. I was pleasantly surprised! Watching TV/movies on the big screen in a virtual Cinema is really pretty cool.

I see it's possible to sideload unofficial content using SideQuest which I'll be trying at some point as there looks to be some great stuff available, including a VR version of the original DOOM which looks like fun!


I'm particularly interested to hear if anyone has linked their Quest to a PC.


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Yes I Linked my Quest up with a USB C cable and it works well, you'll need to buy the right cable though as the one in the box is only USB2 rated! which does work but at a lower bit rate.

I found that the cable is annoying though. and I now use Virtual Desktop to stream Steam and Oculus Rift games onto my Quest over 5G wifi, this works extremely well for me, maybe even better than the USB cable! however you do need to purchase the app it's around £15 and you still need to sideload the other bit to the quest too, but its well worth the slight hassle.

I also use the SKYBOX Vr app on the Quest which will let you stream 3D movies direct to the headset, this is free and works from network shares too which is a nice bonus :)
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Originally posted by Brettster Brettster wrote:

Yes I Linked my Quest up with a USB C cable and it works well, you'll need to buy the right cable though as the one in the box is only USB2 rated! which does work but at a lower bit rate.

I found that the cable is annoying though. and I now use Virtual Desktop to stream Steam and Oculus Rift games onto my Quest over 5G wifi, this works extremely well for me, maybe even better than the USB cable! however you do need to purchase the app it's around £15 and you still need to sideload the other bit to the quest too, but its well worth the slight hassle.

I also use the SKYBOX Vr app on the Quest which will let you stream 3D movies direct to the headset, this is free and works from network shares too which is a nice bonus :)
Thanks for the tips. Playing untethered over 5G sounds good! I'll definitely have to consider getting a VR capable PC at some point. My current PCs are a bit puny as I haven't been into PC gaming for a long time.
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 OK, I now have SideQuest installed, which is great. I also have Virtual Desktop, but will have to wait until I can afford a VR capable PC before getting into playing Rift games etc.

Any recommendations for a good, budget gaming rig would be appreciated. I don't want to get into building my own as I lost touch with PC hardware long ago - I've no idea if graphics card x is better than graphics card y, for example. Just want something that's going to work out of the box.

I've read that a lot of people are using the Shadow PC cloud gaming service, but there's a waiting list to subscribe to it.

Really enjoying my VR experience so far. I never thought the games that have you waving your arms around and jumping about would be to my liking, but now I'm kind of addicted to Beat Saber. It's just so good! LOL


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If you're using Virtual Desktop then go for Nvidia, I had a 5700XT and had loads of issues with it, the AMD ReLive streaming works well but isn't quite as good as Virtual Desktop. For the Quest I'd say you should be good from RTX 2060 and up to play with decent settings, I'm using a 2070 Super and it plays everything great.
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Originally posted by Chunksin Chunksin wrote:

If you're using Virtual Desktop then go for Nvidia, I had a 5700XT and had loads of issues with it, the AMD ReLive streaming works well but isn't quite as good as Virtual Desktop. For the Quest I'd say you should be good from RTX 2060 and up to play with decent settings, I'm using a 2070 Super and it plays everything great.
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I built a new PC last year with an i9 9900k CPU and a 2080TI gfx, I was disappointed with the 2080TI so returned it and stuck with my old GTX 980 card until the new 30 series comes out, a year later and I'm still waiting haha.

But the 980 has been able to handle just about everything I've thrown at it for VR stuff and that's across Rift, Index and Quest streaming.
I wouldn't recommend you dash out to get a 980 but if you have something similar it may be enough for VR stuff
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Originally posted by Brettster Brettster wrote:

I built a new PC last year with an i9 9900k CPU and a 2080TI gfx, I was disappointed with the 2080TI so returned it and stuck with my old GTX 980 card until the new 30 series comes out, a year later and I'm still waiting haha.

But the 980 has been able to handle just about everything I've thrown at it for VR stuff and that's across Rift, Index and Quest streaming.
I wouldn't recommend you dash out to get a 980 but if you have something similar it may be enough for VR stuff
Approximately how much did the PC you built cost, if you don't mind saying? My jaw keeps dropping when I look up the price of things, so I think I'm going to have to wait a while on this.
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I went a bit overboard with some of things but excluding the Graphics card it was around £1900
the 2080ti was an extra £1200.
I assume the new card will be similar price!!

I had the spare cash at the time and rather than waste it on silly things I thought I'll spend it on something I'll use every day

you really don't need to spend anything like that for VR gaming, I built my PC for 4K gaming

You can see most of the parts on this list Case was tricky to get so there's no price for that on the list


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Wow, that must be a great gaming rig. I'm still considering subscibing to Shadow PC instead. Apparently the waiting time may not be as bad as I thought. I'm not in any hurry really, anyway.
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Build a Ryzen based PC, and wait for the new GPUs to appear later this year, skip the Nvidia 20 series as they really didn't bring all that much, and at a terrible price. So pick up a 980/1080 to pass the time, or just wait till later this year, as the new Ryzen 4 series chips will be out then too, along with the new high end AMD GPUs, should help shake the market and the prices.
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I don't have the knowledge, time or inclination to build my own. Lost touch with PC hardware years ago.
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Would this PC (with 4th gen i7) be any use, and is it a good price for a budget VR-capable rig?
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While it should work ok, it's 6 generations old, and you'll need to replace the Motherboard, Ram and Cpu if you want to upgrade it later down the line. the 1650Graphics card is about the lowest spec for decent VR stuff. it would be worth spending a bit more for a more up to date used machine.

I'm sure one will come along on here for sale as people will be upgrading in the next few months I'm sure
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I had an Oculus Rift DK1 and a DK2 but I've not touched or really followed anything VR related since then. 

I stumbled across the Oculus Quest 2 this morning and it sounds pretty impressive! It looks like things have come a long way since the DK2 days and I'm quite tempted to pick one up.

I don't know that much about the modern kit but it sounds like you can play a lot of games without a PC attached. I like the fact that you can also plug it into your PC for more demanding games. I've got an oldish i5 system with a GTX1080 so hopefully I could play some games with that.

There are 64GB (£299) and 246GB (£399) versions and I think I would probably go for the latter. 

The biggest downside I can see is that you need a Facebook account to use one and I've not had one for a good ten years or so. I guess I could just set up a basic account so I can use it though I guess.

Is anyone else interested in them?
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I only got my Quest a few months ago and have spent a fair bit on it (prescription lenses etc.), so will be keeping it for a good while yet. The Quest 2 is more powerful, but they've cut some serious corners to keep the price down. The restricted IPD adjustment on it (which involves touching the lenses!) is a serious deal breaker for me. The slider control on the original Quest is way better.

Also, the increased power of the Quest 2 is mostly irrelevant to me, as I mostly use mine to play PCVR stuff by connecting to my gaming PC wirelessly using Virtual Desktop. Being able to play PCVR titles untethered is so cool. I'm just a few chapters into Half Life Alyx and it's mind blowing!
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Glad to hear you've been enjoying yours. I've not even read anything about Half Life Alyx as I had no way to play it and I didn't want to torture myself. I'm going to take a look now for sure Smile

If you've got a Quest already then there may not be much point upgrading if you are already well invested. It sounds like more of a Quest Plus rather than a Quest 2. 

I think the prescription lenses are transferable. The fixed three position physical IPD adjustment does sound like a bit of a backwards step. Its been reported that the display adjusts when changing the IPD setting so it may be possible to fine tune between the physical positions via software. I much prefer the sound of the IPD adjustment on the first Quest though...

I would love to see what the screen is like on modern VR devices. The screen door effect on the DK1 and DK2 was pretty off putting. It sounds/looks like it's close to not being visible nowadays Smile
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I've never tried VR before getting the Quest, but the screen door effect seems minimal and only noticeable if you look for it. I simply don't notice it when busy playing a game. The Quest screens are OLED too and the Quest 2 are higher res, but I'm betting they're not OLED (I might be wrong).

You'll be able to pick up an original Quest pretty cheaply in the next few weeks I reckon, as there's currently a stampede of people selling theirs to pre-order the Quest 2, and CeX seem to be reducing their buy price on a daily basis. I think a lot of them are going to regret their haste, personally.

The trouble with watching videos of VR stuff is that they look crap compared to the experience in VR, which is all encompassing in true stereoscopic 3D. A vid of Alyx will give you a basic idea of what you're missing, though. Smile
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Originally posted by FrancoB FrancoB wrote:

I've got an oldish i5 system with a GTX1080 so hopefully I could play some games with that.


The 1080 is certainly powerful for 95% of VR game running with everything turned on, quite a lot with SS too, the only game I can think of that needs tweaking is PCars2.
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