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    Posted: 10 May 2018 at 7:56pm
Williams Defender.

Previously restored by 'Egg'. Cab is in nice condition, with the odd scratch and scuff here and there.

Running a switcher and latest JROK board with Ken Falta harness. Original boardset, PSU, wiring etc are all complete and present AFAIK. Original marquee and bezel. CPO in very good condition, either NOS or repro, not sure.

Not WG original monitor. Samsung tube, Kortek chassis. Image is good.

New switching PSU fitted last. New 'zeroplay' joystick. New buttons (really nice ones). New teflon feet.

Bad points: Coin door is a bit bent out of shape. T-moulding is in good condition, but tacked on in a few places.

What's a fair asking price?

Thanks in advance.










Edited by Fuzzy - 10 May 2018 at 8:17pm
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Those Egg restorations are top notch...

Without the JROK you must be looking at £1,200 - £1,400 (forum price).

A JROK will set you back well over £200.

So maybe £1,400 - £1,600 with the JROK???




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bomjac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2018 at 11:44pm
So basically it's a restored defender with repro harness, joystick, original non-working pcb set, replacement CRT and Jamma switcher running a JROK.

It's a nice looking cab, but £1400-£1600 is way OTT. The only defender that would be worth that much would be a HUO minty, all original example - signed by one of the vidkids gods.

£800-£1k would be a fair price. Yea the JROK does add a little value, but I would assume the pcB set is non- working so it's horses for courses. Even on ebay I think your max is about £1200 should you get lucky with the right buyer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iamjimmi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2018 at 7:38am
Whoops... my maths is wrong....

Stand by 1,000 to 1,200 without JROK but with would be 1,200 to 1,400. Doh.

A shell sold on the forum this week for £500 in 4 minutes!

Fuzzy hasnt said the joystick is a repro or that the original boards aren't working... so maybe need clarification on these. I have assumed the joystick is refurbed and the board is ok.

(I have a working boardset in mine but run a JROK for reliability).

I genuinely have £1,600 waiting for a signed HUO machine!

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Thanks for the feedback, fellas.

The original harness is complete and in the machine - Ken's adaptor harness is connected to that to convert it to JAMMA for the JROK. Nothing's been butchered, 5 min job to disconnect it and return to original if required.

Boardset was working when last used, but as this was around 2 years ago, assume non-working now.

Zeroplay joystick is enhancement of existing joystick, not complete replacement.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Russ J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2018 at 7:56am
Not sure on prices but your not selling your Defender are you Jay ?
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Atari Starwars
Robotron (Euro scratch build)
Defender (scratch build)
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Is that your Robotron Jay?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fuzzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2018 at 8:51am
Originally posted by Russ J Russ J wrote:

Not sure on prices but your not selling your Defender are you Jay ?

Hopefully not, Russ, but it's an option at the moment.

Originally posted by phillv85 phillv85 wrote:

Is that your Robotron Jay?  


Yes, that's my little baby, Phill!


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Ah mate sorry to here that

Thought it was your other baby ?
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Originally posted by Russ J Russ J wrote:

Ah mate sorry to here that

Thought it was your other baby ?

Too many buttons and not enough joysticks for my liking! Wink
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Excuse my ignorance gents but who's "egg"?
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Originally posted by Jumbosinbad360 Jumbosinbad360 wrote:

Excuse my ignorance gents but who's "egg"?


Eggwheatis. He's a member on here.
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Ah thanks Fuzzy, just been reading about the jrok board.. so you can play other Williams games on your Defender? That's cool!
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Originally posted by Jumbosinbad360 Jumbosinbad360 wrote:

Ah thanks Fuzzy, just been reading about the jrok board.. so you can play other Williams games on your Defender? That's cool!


Yes, but only Stargate is really playable with the Defender CP, and that doesn't have an 'inviso' button.

The JROK also lets you play & switch between different ROM sets (for example, Defender Red ROMs, White ROMs, Green ROMs) and you can switch between 2 save RAMs for high scores - handy if you have friends coming round and they're better than you, and you don't want them to dominate your high score table!

The JROK may not be for 'purists', but it plays identically to the original board sets.

I went to a Defender players meeting recently and some of the world's best players were in attendance - none of them knew which machines were running original board sets and which were running JROKs.

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Sounds awesome, I'm  looking forward to owning one..

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I'm guessing Joust and Bubbles would work ok?
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Originally posted by Jumbosinbad360 Jumbosinbad360 wrote:

I'm guessing Joust and Bubbles would work ok?
No. Remember the Defender joystick is just a 2-way (up/down).
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