Afterburner DLX motor drive boards

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Following on from our Space Harrier/Outrun DLX
motor drive boards, we are looking to create Afterburner DLX compatible drive
boards.

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As the Afterburner boards are very similar, it would seem wrong not to do a
reworking.

If anyone wants to chip in, and maybe have a play with Circuitmaker, please do. It's about making something decent and having a bit of fun as a team, rather than anyone making money. I can't imagine there's too many cabinets out there needing boards either.

With a bit of help, I’ve managed to come up with schematics that seem about
right and I’ve started on modifying the PCB (above), but there’s certainly a bit of
routing to do.

Like the previous boards, it’s as much an art project as it is electronics, so
if anyone has boards they could stick in scanners and take measurements of,
please do - getting the routing and dimensions spot-on is the bit I'm struggling with right now, having just got photos off the 'net to copy from.

The circuitmaker project is here:

https://circuitmaker.com/Projects#/839-0086/7//1

The pictures I’ve got so far are:

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And some very helpful close-ups on:

http://www.gamoover.net/Forums/index.php?topic=22323.384

And thanks to Retroclinic and Ordyne and Porchy, we have a PAL dumps.

It's worth mentioning I’ve no intention of making hardware until all 50 Space Harrier Boards
are done and shipped - consider this slow-burning future R&D.

Observations so far:

Circuit is same principle as SH, but has two triacs per motor and a
bi-directional 80V transformer. This allows power pulses on both half cycles of
the mains, giving twice the output of the SH boards.

Most of the circuit is identical (95%, perhaps) - this board is almost a ‘hack’, with the
triacs on a separate PCB.

One extra logic IC is present to do a mains-sync operation that was done in the
PAL in SH. Presumably there was no room with the extra control needed for
Afterburner.

Afterburner differs mostly in the PAL code, with double the equations to
provide ‘full-wave’ power transfer.

Confusingly, the PAL dumps show no connection for one of the gate signal to the two triacs. If true then
the extra capacity is unused (SEGA coded it out before release). This board
will use jumpers to allow both possibilities.

3-pin filters are used on the 5V power circuits (maybe they had issues with
SH?!)

As with SH, there are ‘clutch’ drivers for the two motors. These are not
populated.

Most of the PCB has the same routing of SH - this is a bit of a 'hack'.

So, anyway, I'll update this thread and add more info as I go on, but anyone up for helping, let me know.

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Thanks everyone. I can re-use the Outrun/SH test harness to check the functionality, but it will need some field testing eventually, so thanks Andy
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I've been doing some research (thanks again Porchy and Ordyne for the efforts with the multiple PAL dumping).

From what I can see SEGA removed functionality with this board over the original design intention.

The board is designed to use a centre-tap transformer to give 80V AC and also an additional inverted 80V AC. The board then uses two triacs (per motor) to switch current on either halves of the mains-cycle. This is twice the capability of Outrun/SH (the dots on the image show where the extra pulses of current are delivered).
So one triac alone is enough to drive a motor, but this system splits it over two, doubling the capability.
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However...

For some reason, Sega decided to only use one triac per motor. This is evident in the PAL dumps we've seen that have no output on pin 19.
So instead it appears they've put in a very high current-rated triac. The centre-tap transformer is unlikely to be used too, with only two connections used per motor.

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Functionally this means the circuit is now the same as Space Harrier. The only thing stopping you is the current rating of the Triac needing to be far greater for Afterburner.

So as both versions might exist out there (and if anyone has an Afterburner with 3 wires for each motor and all triacs populated, let us know), this board will be designed to accommodate either system.

We don't have the PAL for the dual-triac-per-motor solution, but I'm pretty sure I've worked out the missing equation for pin 19 (it's very similar to 17, just switches on the opposite mains half-cycle).

As evidence of this theory, here's a Unidesa clone that only uses half the triacs:

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And this link here shows where someone has fitted one massive triac in place of each pair (you can see it's driven off one optocoupler only and there's just two wires to the plug).

http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=3874.0

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The guy in that link seems to be struggling and at one point replaces the large triacs with two small ones. Unfortunately, if you do that you NEED to have the PAL with the capability to drive both triacs AND a centre-tap transformer. Otherwise it'll just ignore the additional triac and incinerate the other (as it's not got the current capability to go solo).

Some research/theory that might be of interest anyway.
 

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Just a few parts away from the first prototype.

Thanks to Arcade Club for the loan of the original. Got the track routing as close as I could.

As mentioned, this is a dual-mode board that'll work in-place of 2 and 4 triac systems - no settings, should just be plug and play
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Hi, apologies for the necro post.
I see you're still selling the outrun/space harrier boards, was just wondering what the future plans if any are for this afterburner one?
Cheers, Lee
 

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Hmm, that's three possible orders then :D.
I've got loads of Outrun boards left, but only ever did 5 of these and they all went ages ago.

I've barely got the time, but I'll have a think and see if my friend wants to make some of these up for me, like she did the Outrun boards. I'd hate to think there were boardless machines out there :cry:.

They were a bit more expensive to make though, what with all the huge tracs, I think it comes out around £130 but I'd have to check.
 

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Unless I'm mistaken, the Drive Board are not the same. In the Commander they are 839-0106 Drive Board After Burner S and 839-0105 Triac Board After Burner S.

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Thanks for the picture, not seen the PCBs from a commander before..
Looks the same to me, but they've deleted the triacs for one axis as they're unused.
It wouldn't surprise me if some commanders have one big triac and a different transformer, in the same way some DLX's do.

Anyway, I think the repro would work fine. Would be nice to know the label on the PAL, so see which version is it, incase there's some slight speed changes.
 

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I guess I should give it a month or so and gauge numbers.
It's that balance of quantity buying and having the odd spare board available when someone else comes along, vs having a cupboard with £1000 worth of unsold bits sat in it.
I should make an effort to shift a few more Outrun boards actually, got at least 15 and I'm sure there's folk I've not got back to 😬
 

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Cool, will do.
I've just finished making up the last of my present run of Outrun/Space Harrier drive boards, so I might try to get some of those sold on (and see if there's any shows-of-interest I've not responded to :oops:) then I can look at doing some of these. Only so much room in the cupboard :D.
 
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