Is PAT testing meaningless?

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What happened to British Safety Kite Marks and everything else years ago now you have ebay flooded with any old tat, Electrical/Electronics Safety seems to have left the planet in one of Elon's Cock Rockets and now at bottom of Ocean in Bermuda Triangle
Well all those standards still exist, but I'll let you into a secret. Neither eBay nor the People's Golden Chrysanthemum Electrical Concern care whether your or my house burns down.
 

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I PAT test all my school’s science equipment every summer.

I always pick up a few items that are shorting or are dangerous. It’s well worth doing to keep the children safe and costs them a couple of days work to do 1000+ items.

I find it super interesting tinkering with and fixing old 70s and 80s physics equipment. Everything from oscilloscopes (bloody 100s of the things!) to Geiger counters and overhead projectors. I even test the ticker tapes timers I used to run down ramps when I was a wee boy there.

We also test all new equipment coming in. We fail loads of cheap Chinese AV stuff and chargers the boarders bring in, so you’re definitely not ok just because something is new.
 

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Brother was just telling me he was behind a guy on a bike, he was going to over take him on the straight as he was already doing 30 mph on the bends when he got on the straight he's still behind the bike doing 70 mph, no helmet or protective clothing

There are no British standards on items for sale straight from factory in China on ebay
You have Fridges, freezers, Tumble dryers setting on fire as said in Grenfell tower incident, anyone been done for the Cladding yet? anyone being done for the residents that survived the fire but have serious health problems from the toxic chemicals used in Fire Retardants?

It's just the claim they care in one area but then many others they have no concern for your safety at all
 

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I believe PAT is important. I do not use chargers from eBay and buy transformers from places like RS Electrical and CPC with a datasheet and proper markings that actually mean something. I don't want a cheap import with fake markings to damage me or my computers.

I'm not an electrician but testing an original arcade machine would have to be very thorough. Every exposed metal part, monitor, button, speaker and socket need tested. A MAME cabinet would be easier I guess with PCs and flat screens.

An electrician told me there is a difference between electrical installations and electronics. Another very good electrician also diagnosed a duff Jamma transformer in my OutRun. They have all the experience and test equipment.

In general electrical testing is essential and should be recognised more by the public.

Big Clive is excellent. His teardown of this dangerous multiplug is great:
David Savery (DSES UK) also had a savage review of one of those. He had to diagnose a fault when an RCD tripped. It almost caused a customer to be electrocuted when an iPad was plugged into it, charging and she touched a radiator. He crushed the multiplug under his van. I can't find that one though.

I also like John Ward who tested those:
That should be on Watchdog.
 
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The real problem with ‘common sense’ is it’s not common. It’s an individual’s intuition projected onto the majority.

It’s a phrase usually used in the absence of coherent or meaningful logic. If my common sense is different to yours then who is right? It’s the equivalent of putting ‘end of’ at the end of an argument. It’s just a mechanism for avoiding scrutiny.
 

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FUN QUIZ today now ( not so funny more a safety aware thing ) …. Like for PAT ?

Have a go it’s on this forum “OFF TOPIC” section

See how you would do … the machine is fine and Now… with a timely bodge repair it works ok

But it has numerous FAIL issues still ???

Can you find them all ???? Fun only no prizes !
 
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