Need a CPU and mobo upgrade - now built!

[pooman2084]

Looks like you can use a little freebie utility to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11.

Hey, this worked, thanks!

I get an error message on booting Windows 11 where it can't find a TPM related driver, but I haven't had chance to look at it yet.

I've managed to give my old I5 a 32% OC so I'm at a sweet spot where my GPU and CPU are both nearly maxed out but able to run RDR2 and GTAV Enhanced with loads of 4k and 8k textures, all on ultra at 50 - 70 fps. I'm having fun enjoying the graphics card upgrade and RTX so will let things pan out for another year or so i think. The upgrade I wanted to do, with cooler, came to about £500 which I could do without spending.

I have 16gb of 2400 RAM though which i think is struggling. Should i try and get another 16gb of similar or bite the bullet and get 32gb of faster stuff? Can I use any speed DDR if no pairing with my current RAM?

 

[Spanky]

I would run the scanner thing at https://www.crucial.com/store/systemscanner and see what it recommends.
If you have a HDD, replace that with an SSD.

 

[pooman2084]

I would run the scanner thing at https://www.crucial.com/store/systemscanner and see what it recommends.
If you have a HDD, replace that with an SSD.

Will do, thanks.

It’s going to say’hey there buddy, you should spend £500!’

 

[Spanky]

Did you have to buy another licence key?

 

[pooman2084]

Did you have to buy another licence key?

No, it just updated without asking.

 

[ZedEx48K]

Cough https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts cough

 

[funk]

I ended up admitting defeat and retired my long faithfull 6600k, ended up getting a Ryzen 7500f from Ali at a stupid price, it amazingly turned up and is what it was promised.

I say defeat, i just reached the point where I couldn't be bothered messing and can repurpose the 6600k anyway - I'm waiting for valve to release SteamOS for my pc/tv gaming needs.

I've I don't anything with the new build since because of life and lack of motivation as usual. Do need to make an effort though!

 

[ZedEx48K]

I'm waiting for valve to release SteamOS for my pc/tv gaming needs.

Why, it's just big picture mode on an annoying OS*, you can do it now on Windows but you also get the benefit of all your stores and games working, if you want a frontend to rule them all get playnite or Launchbox.


*Steamdeck owner running windows, once you leave big picture, it's just growing frustration getting things done.

 

[funk]

Why, it's just big picture mode on an annoying OS*, you can do it now on Windows but you also get the benefit of all your stores and games working, if you want a frontend to rule them all get playnite or Launchbox.


*Steamdeck owner running windows, once you leave big picture, it's just growing frustration getting things done.

Hardware reuse, simple as.

Anything non-TPM enabled will run it, with no reliance on windows, so no messing around with out of support operating systems or forced installs of windows 11.

A hell of a lot, maybe most content on steam, doesn't require modern hardware to run, and by that I mean anything from high 4 series Intel's upwards, providing you've got a gfx card from the last 8-10 years. I comfortably played the recent Portal expansion on a 4 series on the TV without any bother at all, decent settings and resolution.

SteamOS will take off, and that's coming from a Microsoft guy by trade 🤷‍♂️ The only other direction I could see it going is a mad world where someone Microsoft manages to acquire Steam, and in Gabe's lifetime I cant see that happening... Who knows though!

 

[ZedEx48K]

I doubt SteamOS will ever succeed until the inherent issues with Linux are fixed, watch any average user/mom/pop use windows, that can be hard enough for them, Linux is a whole new bag of tricks that's a pain in the arse to use. I do think the Win 11 IU is wank and it's one of the 1st things I fixed, makes it far more productive no matter the claims from MS. TPM is get around-able, be it the module or use something like Rufus to bypass it, same with signing in, balls to that and the problems that come with it, but hey, it still works as it should without me having to SUDO or force me a user password just to change some options etc.

 

[kingtreelo]

Hardware reuse, simple as.

Anything non-TPM enabled will run it, with no reliance on windows, so no messing around with out of support operating systems or forced installs of windows 11.

A hell of a lot, maybe most content on steam, doesn't require modern hardware to run, and by that I mean anything from high 4 series Intel's upwards, providing you've got a gfx card from the last 8-10 years. I comfortably played the recent Portal expansion on a 4 series on the TV without any bother at all, decent settings and resolution.

SteamOS will take off, and that's coming from a Microsoft guy by trade 🤷‍♂️ The only other direction I could see it going is a mad world where someone Microsoft manages to acquire Steam, and in Gabe's lifetime I cant see that happening... Who knows though!

Portal 2 is 14 years old, of course it will run on old hardware

I guess it all depends on what you want to play though, but newer more intensive games will not run on calculators

 

[funk]

Of course it totally depends on what you play, not arguing that, but until you start hitting the CPU bottle neck many people upgrade for the sake of it.

I know people who have (relatively) happily played through stuff like cyberpunk on good settings with a 4790k, providing there's enough memory and you've got a chunky enough GPU it's doable. Not optimal, but doable.

 

[funk]

I doubt SteamOS will ever succeed until the inherent issues with Linux are fixed, watch any average user/mom/pop use windows, that can be hard enough for them, Linux is a whole new bag of tricks that's a pain in the arse to use. I do think the Win 11 IU is wank and it's one of the 1st things I fixed, makes it far more productive no matter the claims from MS. TPM is get around-able, be it the module or use something like Rufus to bypass it, same with signing in, balls to that and the problems that come with it, but hey, it still works as it should without me having to SUDO or force me a user password just to change some options etc.

Figured you may find this interesting @ZedEx48K

...again, I'm a Microsoft pro, I have a level of loyalty because of that, and yes the video is currently in relation to handheld devices, but it's how empires end up falling.

 

[ZedEx48K]

Figured you may find this interesting @ZedEx48K

...again, I'm a Microsoft pro, I have a level of loyalty because of that, and yes the video is currently in relation to handheld devices, but it's how empires end up falling.

I'm not so much loyal to MS, more that in my times attempting to use Linux I always end up with brick walls trying to do things, or things like flatpack extracting to a dir without asking me (lumped in C drive exactly where I didn't want it). SteamOS is fine for generics that will never go to the desktop (and why many use the prebuilds of emu frontends cos they have no clue how to set them up), until Linux builds are united on practices, it will never win, also this ignores several other game store platforms that don't or are difficult to run (Gamepass has legit been great for me), not everyone worships at the cult of Gaben!

There's several seasoned Linux admins etc in Steamdeck discords that run Windows on it, they just want stuff to work!

Also, that vid gets a few facts wrong.

 

[eliotcole]

If anyone wants an insanely good deal on a great productivity monitor then check out the following ACER monitor at Overclockers:

ACER 32" Predator X32Q FS - x32qfsbmiiphuzx​

EDIT - This arrived literally days later, despite being on backstock ... it will be an EXCELLENT upgrade. I am going to retired the OLED that I never turned on to be a second room viewing TV ... this will be a single monitor solution for my desk ... HURRAH!

 

[pooman2084]

Ok, after a fair bit of checking stuff out, I want to skip a generation of mobos and go to AM5. The best bang for buck entry that I can see is a 9700X at £258 with some decently fast DDR5 6000 RAM to overclock.

CPU https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0D6NMDNNX/ref=ewc_pr_img_3?smid=A1CMD4F3CXXXLI&psc=1
RAM https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0CBRJ63RT/ref=ewc_pr_img_5?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&th=1
Motherboard https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DPKVF29H/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&th=1

With some nice RAM the 9000 series can get some really nice speeds and will be decent at most things I'll chuck at it. If I want to upgrade at some point I'll just need to change the CPU.

 

[eliotcole]

Not using this as a 'telling you what to do' or 'what is right' ... but ... for the sake of a few more quid (or often the same price or less) you can buy from UK PC and PC parts resellers.

You will find it just as easy, and you will get FAR greater service before after and during the whole process. ... Plus, if things should not be quite right? Well, you'll also be far more likely to have a proper discourse about it.

Plus, places like Scan or Overclockers offer bundles (most of which are configurable) which you can make a wishlist of and then get them to assemble, and stress test, then send on to you once they're good to go.

Either way, there's plenty of VERY reputably UK firms (eBuyer, and more) who offer similarly good service, and they will not mistreat you if you speak with them, too.

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You can often speak to their sales team directly, on the phone to talk about even greater bargains.

Back during the blight (the shortage before and/or during covid) I got a deal on an RX 6900 XT which was HUNDREDS of pounds cheaper than it should've been, because they screwed up my bundle. It was an innocent, rare, admin error, which unfortunately came in the midst of horrendous cost hikes, so I had to be a proper consumer and escalate it.

In the end very, very, amicable discussions lead to the possibility of using one of the system integrator GPU models ... boom.

Amazon? That wouldn't have been a thing.

 

[Vamino]

Last CPU I bought from Amazon was a nightmare.

Last year I bought a 13700kf and they sent me a 12600k. Obviously a warehouse error but I wasn't impressed.



I returned it same day but it was then stuck in processing hell for ages, when I kicked up a stink they eventually refunded me after I jumped through the hoops the bot and support wanted me to jump through. Not bought a high ticket item since.

One of my mates bought a 'new' GPU that was used and smelt like wet dogs, and also bought a set of high end ram that had been replaced with cardboard with coins sellotaped on to make up the weight of what the sticks were supposed to weigh.

As has been said, there are better options rather than using Amazon.

 

[ZedEx48K]

Not using this as a 'telling you what to do' or 'what is right' ... but ... for the sake of a few more quid (or often the same price or less) you can buy from UK PC and PC parts resellers.

You will find it just as easy, and you will get FAR greater service before after and during the whole process. ... Plus, if things should not be quite right? Well, you'll also be far more likely to have a proper discourse about it.

Plus, places like Scan or Overclockers offer bundles (most of which are configurable) which you can make a wishlist of and then get them to assemble, and stress test, then send on to you once they're good to go.

Either way, there's plenty of VERY reputably UK firms (eBuyer, and more) who offer similarly good service, and they will not mistreat you if you speak with them, too.

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You can often speak to their sales team directly, on the phone to talk about even greater bargains.

Back during the blight (the shortage before and/or during covid) I got a deal on an RX 6900 XT which was HUNDREDS of pounds cheaper than it should've been, because they screwed up my bundle. It was an innocent, rare, admin error, which unfortunately came in the midst of horrendous cost hikes, so I had to be a proper consumer and escalate it.

In the end very, very, amicable discussions lead to the possibility of using one of the system integrator GPU models ... boom.

Amazon? That wouldn't have been a thing.

Overclockers are generally more expensive than elsewhere, Scan are better, and good tech support, Amazon has however always beaten them all on price and been easy to chat with someone and returning goods even if your nan just looked at them wrong!


Vamino, the delay your suffered was to stop people getting fake items, as the goods are actually checked on high value items now to catch switch and return scammers, they do however take too long to do this as a robot can't tell the difference, so they employ one old guy to do it all Even retail stores have suffered alate, Micro center had 30 or so 5090s that were a few bags bundled up in the box instead!

 

[Vamino]

Overclockers are generally more expensive than elsewhere, Scan are better, and good tech support, Amazon has however always beaten them all on price and been easy to chat with someone and returning goods even if your nan just looked at them wrong!


Vamino, the delay your suffered was to stop people getting fake items, as the goods are actually checked on high value items now to catch switch and return scammers, they do however take too long to do this as a robot can't tell the difference, so they employ one old guy to do it all Even retail stores have suffered alate, Micro center had 30 or so 5090s that were a few bags bundled up in the box instead!

Please look at the picture I attached to my previous post.

Sticker on box was for 13700k, actual box was for a 12600k. When everything is automated using robo pickers, then mistakes like this happen all too frequently.

When I sent it back I tracked it into processing and then it stopped there. I then had to use automated help to then be told to wait a specific amount of time before I could contact real people.

After that period of time expired, I then had to speak with multiple agents and go through everything again to be told the same thing before I snapped and demanded an immediate resolution, which I thankfully got.

Last year I also ordered a GPU from amazon from their warehouse deals, and when I recieved it the thing didn't work at all. More wasted time sending it back.

The 5090's at microcenter were 5090 boxes but had bags in them, so not the same thing as an Amazon mispick. Apparently they were swapped over at Zotac or during transit, not swapped over by customers.

A couple of weeks ago I bought a new GPU via Nvidia website, it was shipped by Scan the same day I placed my order and I received it next day on a Saturday and at a price cheaper than Amazon.

Buying a high ticket item from Amazon is a last resort for me now.

Wait until something happens to you, then you may not be as forgiving.