Powder coating vs spray paint

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Interested to hear people's thoughts and experiences on metal work treatments, thinking trim, coin doors, generic black stuff in the main.

I'm a dab hand with a spray can but curiosity of trying powder coating has been nagging at me.

Where have people gone for "consumer" powder coating? Only seem to be alloy wheel workshops around here that offer anything like it?
 

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I've used both methods powder coating and spray paints. One key point I have found is the better the surface preparation the better the end result, spending more time working on the surface of the part before the chosen coating process definitely results in a much better finish for either method.

For example I've powder coated the stand and legs on an Atari Asteroids Deluxe cocktail, and the finish has held up far better than the spray painted legs on my Centipede cocktail.

For certain areas powder coating is certainly more durable. However on something like a coin door, unless you want a special textured surface finish I think spray painting is far more cost effective and performs just as well.

I just found a local company by googling 'powder coating services' then shopped around for what I though was a fair price, read the google reviews and made my choice.

I've now had five all metal candy cabinets powder coated and many other miscellaneous parts done, from a cost point of view, batch all the same colours together in the largest quantity possible to save cost. In the past I had a iron gate for my house in the same batch as a cocktail cabinet legs, and other black items such as metal coin boxes. As total price does not seem to jump by huge amounts for more items with the company I use.

The company I use has a minimum charge of £40 for even the smallest item. However a complete Neo Candy 29 acid bath stripped, shot blasted, zinc primer painted and then all parts powder coated using three colours, red, white and black ran me at about £320 all in.
 
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Great response above. I'll reiterate the 90% preparation, 10% application, ethos. I've had some phenomenal results with spray paint, but the hours of preparation that go unseen are the real key to the end result.

I've always just sprayed, usually the hammerite direct to metal, either smooth satin or hammered, depending on the desired finish. But that is mainly because I haven't found a local reliable alternative.

One thing I will say, from a recent convo on another group, is just to be very wary of the heating process used in powder coating and that some coin door surrounds for example will buckle/melt during the curing process.
 

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A good powdercoaters will be able to shot blast first as long as you request it, and if the metalwork is rusty etc you definitely want to. I’ve not done arcade cabinets as above but I’ve done many pinball trim jobs and the secret to keep the cost down is to keep it all one colour. The individual colours is what will cost all the money. One colour one simple price.

I can get a full trim set, I’m talking everything including playfield hooks and support bars, coin box lids if you want (and why not) all done for £60 inc shot blast first as long as all done to same colour. I’ll even throw in another pinballs parts if I want some done in that colour thinking ahead to future jobs. Or couple sets of legs with it as they’ve never cared. You will need to reinsert screws etc into holes so you don’t get them all clogged up.

A good spray paint isn’t as durable but I’m guessing you’ll have more colour options (Metallica. Special Effects). Personally I’m powdercoaters all the way but as said above I’m sure sometimes spray paint is ok for some jobs

Attached pic showing my latest random parts stuff as I think it’s a nice touch but it’s all personal taste. Pinball world is more customise, arcade world is more concentrated on originality (or that’s what I’ve found so far since dipping into arcade) so if arcade parts it’s probably normally all going to be black 🤷‍♂️ I could be totally wrong.
 

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We've a few powder coating companies here in Belfast, and from what I've heard, all do a great job.

I've been thinking about doing powder coating myself, small items, not full Candy Cabs, just to experiment with, but will see.

I've seen some people on the internet able to powder coat wood and plastics. It's all about getting the item negatively charged evenly so the positively charged paint clings to it, then baking.
 

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Powder coating is only as good as the metal. I've had some terrible results powder coating, because the metal was pitted, and looked worse after powder coating. I've then had to fill primer and do it all again! I'm getting better spraying, but not great. Most cabs now have rotten metal, after being left in damp sheds etc, and this is where I would avoid powder coating. Doing it yourself is time consuming, messy and a pain, but it's all in the prep.
 

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Powder coating is only as good as the metal. I've had some terrible results powder coating, because the metal was pitted, and looked worse after powder coating. I've then had to fill primer and do it all again! I'm getting better spraying, but not great. Most cabs now have rotten metal, after being left in damp sheds etc, and this is where I would avoid powder coating. Doing it yourself is time consuming, messy and a pain, but it's all in the prep.

So true, and as stated in various places above, it's all about the prep work.

You can get thick powder primers that help fill in badly pitted surfaces, but they aren't miracle workers.
 

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I use powder coating. Local alloy wheel repair place charged £30 for my taito cocktail legs. I have just picked another cocktail today and requested a quote for a re-chroming on the legs. Let's see what they come back with.
 

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I use powder coating. Local alloy wheel repair place charged £30 for my taito cocktail legs. I have just picked another cocktail today and requested a quote for a re-chroming on the legs. Let's see what they come back with.

Is it actual chroming or hi gloss silver powder coating?

Seen some nice metallic coatings, candy colours, that look really nice. Almost chrome like.
 

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With quite a bit of work I've been doing on cars I'm getting quite frustrated, I bought a Sand Blasting cabinet, big compressor, spray guns etc so I can do the work myself, also I can restore all parts of the Arcade Machines too, the cars are a nightmare, I've sandblasted parts that are very rusty and bought Expoxy 2k Paint from here
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I repainted lots of suspension parts and replaced bushes, all looked great, 6 months later all rust coming through again. If you have really rusty parts that's pitted sandblasting it and even in summer in dry house the parts start rusting in a week, little spots of rust all over will appear, i don't know if you need to then put parts in rust killer, i even used that Rust converter they sell to treat areas of the car that you could get rid of all rust but nothing you do makes a difference. from what i've read now the best thing to do is use Cold Galvanising with Zinc rich primer, if the metal is perfect with little rust and sandblasted, no pitting it will be fine painted like the arches i replaced. so next time i'm using Zinga to prime all metal that's outside or somewhere that could be damp, in home i wouldn't bother unless it's really pitted metal

The expoxy paint in the link looks pretty much like powder coating when painted and great for arcade parts like control panels, brackets etc so I spray all the parts now, you could probably buy any 2k Satin paint for them, specially if you were painting say Op Wolf gun as you don't want it too thick like powder coating as you struggle to reassembly parts of it because they had a very thin coat originally, but if you want a Powdercoat like tough finish 2k paints are the way to go because it's chemically cured, only downside is you have to mix the activator with it, then thinners so and you only have so long before it's going off, if you mix too much paint you then have to throw some away so I get loads of parts ready to paint black so I run out of paint before i've finished them all

You can buy 2k Spray cans but it's expensive way to go if you have big parts or a few machines to do, other thing is time, it's much easier to take it all and have blasted, powered but with price increases i'll be doing it all myself now

Same with items very rusty and powder coated, you can see the pitting even when finished so it's good doing it yourself if you want better finish just use 2k paints, can get small compressor and decent spray gun for not much money these days
 

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I use powder coating. Local alloy wheel repair place charged £30 for my taito cocktail legs. I have just picked another cocktail today and requested a quote for a re-chroming on the legs. Let's see what they come back with.
Local company informed me they do not do re-chroming sadly. no where near me does it (Oxford). Anyone else knows of such company i can try pls?
 
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