[Tech] trackball challenge
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RE: [ukvac] [Tech] trackball challenge
There is PLENTY of information on doing it the other way round.... (ie.
trackball to PC!!)
Unfortunately, it all kinda gets in the way when you search for it!!
I found: http://roger.trideja.com/arcade/amiga-mouse.html Which is
Converting an Amiga Mouse to a trackball or Rotary Knob, but all I did was
do a search: http://www.google.com/search?q=mouse+trackball+arcade
It brings up plenty of hits....
Pobster
There is PLENTY of information on doing it the other way round.... (ie.
trackball to PC!!)
Unfortunately, it all kinda gets in the way when you search for it!!
I found: http://roger.trideja.com/arcade/amiga-mouse.html Which is
Converting an Amiga Mouse to a trackball or Rotary Knob, but all I did was
do a search: http://www.google.com/search?q=mouse+trackball+arcade
It brings up plenty of hits....
Pobster
RE: [ukvac] [Tech] trackball challenge
check out link from http://www.arcades.org.uk/PCB-Hack.htm on how to use an
amiga mouse on trackball games.
(I bumped into it recently) - don't think you would be able to use a PC
mouse in quite the same way, as it decodes the movement and transmits it as
RS232 signals instead! (Atari ST mouse should be possible too)
>Can a cheapo PC mouse be hacked so it could be used to test the inputs on
trackball games? Could the
>outputs be tapped off before they are converted to serial?
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check out link from http://www.arcades.org.uk/PCB-Hack.htm on how to use an
amiga mouse on trackball games.
(I bumped into it recently) - don't think you would be able to use a PC
mouse in quite the same way, as it decodes the movement and transmits it as
RS232 signals instead! (Atari ST mouse should be possible too)
>Can a cheapo PC mouse be hacked so it could be used to test the inputs on
trackball games? Could the
>outputs be tapped off before they are converted to serial?
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[tt] There is PLENTY of information on doing it the other way round.... (ie.
trackball to PC!!)
Unfortunately, it all kinda gets in the way when you search for it!!
I found: http://roger.trideja.com/arcade/amiga-mouse.html Which is
Converting an Amiga Mouse to a trackball or Rotary Knob, but all I did was
do a search: http://www.google.com/search?q=mouse+trackball+arcade
It brings up plenty of hits....
Pobster
trackball to PC!!)
Unfortunately, it all kinda gets in the way when you search for it!!
I found: http://roger.trideja.com/arcade/amiga-mouse.html Which is
Converting an Amiga Mouse to a trackball or Rotary Knob, but all I did was
do a search: http://www.google.com/search?q=mouse+trackball+arcade
It brings up plenty of hits....
Pobster
y> [tt] check out link from http://www.arcades.org.uk/PCB-Hack.htm on how to use an
amiga mouse on trackball games.
(I bumped into it recently) - don't think you would be able to use a PC
mouse in quite the same way, as it decodes the movement and transmits it as
RS232 signals instead! (Atari ST mouse should be possible too)
>Can a cheapo PC mouse be hacked so it could be used to test the inputs on
trackball games? Could the
>outputs be tapped off before they are converted to serial?
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amiga mouse on trackball games.
(I bumped into it recently) - don't think you would be able to use a PC
mouse in quite the same way, as it decodes the movement and transmits it as
RS232 signals instead! (Atari ST mouse should be possible too)
>Can a cheapo PC mouse be hacked so it could be used to test the inputs on
trackball games? Could the
>outputs be tapped off before they are converted to serial?
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Re: [ukvac] [Tech] trackball challenge
At 09:26 05/12/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Can a cheapo PC mouse be hacked so it could be used to test the inputs on
>trackball games? Could the outputs be tapped off before they are converted
>to serial?
Yes, somewhere between the opto and the output you will have a 5 volt
quadrature
signal pair from each axis (X + Y), get your scope/probe out and trace the
circuit
to the point just before it gets converted to RS232.
Easier than it looks, not that much goin on in a mouse...
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At 09:26 05/12/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Can a cheapo PC mouse be hacked so it could be used to test the inputs on
>trackball games? Could the outputs be tapped off before they are converted
>to serial?
Yes, somewhere between the opto and the output you will have a 5 volt
quadrature
signal pair from each axis (X + Y), get your scope/probe out and trace the
circuit
to the point just before it gets converted to RS232.
Easier than it looks, not that much goin on in a mouse...
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RE: [ukvac] [Tech] trackball challenge
doh! - of course, I did a trackball to PC conversion using the control board
out of a mouse, but the same info would be just as relevant for picking up
the signals directly and not removing the led's and optical receivers -
easiest place should be from directly underneath these on the board, since
the will have GND,5v and he 2 optical outputs in one location.
I was thinking that your couldn't just plug a PC mouse direct to a PCB, but
all the signals needed are in there somwhere. The bit about vane sizes may
still be relevant though, since some mice have drastically different
mark/space ratios which could make it a little unusable (I tried a Logitech
mouse first, and whilst it worked fine at low speeds, it went totally up the
creek at higher speeds!)
http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/trackball.html
>Yes, somewhere between the opto and the output you will have a 5 volt
>quadrature signal pair from each axis (X + Y), get your scope/probe out and
trace the
>circuit to the point just before it gets converted to RS232.
>Easier than it looks, not that much goin on in a mouse...
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doh! - of course, I did a trackball to PC conversion using the control board
out of a mouse, but the same info would be just as relevant for picking up
the signals directly and not removing the led's and optical receivers -
easiest place should be from directly underneath these on the board, since
the will have GND,5v and he 2 optical outputs in one location.
I was thinking that your couldn't just plug a PC mouse direct to a PCB, but
all the signals needed are in there somwhere. The bit about vane sizes may
still be relevant though, since some mice have drastically different
mark/space ratios which could make it a little unusable (I tried a Logitech
mouse first, and whilst it worked fine at low speeds, it went totally up the
creek at higher speeds!)
http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/trackball.html
>Yes, somewhere between the opto and the output you will have a 5 volt
>quadrature signal pair from each axis (X + Y), get your scope/probe out and
trace the
>circuit to the point just before it gets converted to RS232.
>Easier than it looks, not that much goin on in a mouse...
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