Warning to members

[newlands1]

A put up a post looking for a outrun cabaret , got to Private Message saying some had one to email them.
Email address jeffclayton75@gmail.com
The email have been going on for about 4 weeks with emails , am moving house so could not take right away so after 4 weeks he asked for a deposit of £50 witch am happy with , asked to send a video of it working he could not do , he said because it was all wrapped up and near a post office, he getting slower at answering email, and asking for payment before collection , a paid into his partners pay pal the £ 50 deposit,
See tonight the image on the cab on Google the markings and the surrounds are the same in the picture, can put up the paypal and bank account he's wanting me to pay in ,

Has anyone got a outrun cabaret or turbo for sale
It's only £50 a have lost but just to make people awarec

 

[Stokers]

A put up a post looking for a outrun cabaret , got to Private Message saying some had one to email them.
Email address jeffclayton75@gmail.com
The email have been going on for about 4 weeks with emails , am moving house so could not take right away so after 4 weeks he asked for a deposit of £50 witch am happy with , asked to send a video of it working he could not do , he said because it was all wrapped up and near a post office, he getting slower at answering email, and asking for payment before collection , a paid into his partners pay pal the £ 50 deposit,
See tonight the image on the cab on Google the markings and the surrounds are the same in the picture, can put up the paypal and bank account he's wanting me to pay in ,

Has anyone got a outrun cabaret or turbo for sale
It's only £50 a have lost but just to make people awarec

Yeah i've had a couple of similar sounding pm's. It jumped out to me as a scam but not sure it was the same one you received. It would be great to catch the little shit(s) who are doing it.

It’s happened to me on arcade projects as well as I’ve posted in a couple of wanted threads. On both sites I got a message like this one, user with no previous messages or feedback trying to get you to correspond via email asap.

 

[TheDaddy]

Oh shit , Did you pay them on paypal ( I know you paid into there's )?? If so you are covered and can get your money back, well as long as you did not do friends and family. There are so many of these at the moment , Its disgusting what some scum will do to extract money from people.

I would love 10 minutes in a room with these despicable money grabbing pricks !

Sorry it really enrages me , Were they not brought up like the rest of us ??

Dave.

 

[Chihiro]

Seen loads of similar stories recently mostly on Arcade Projects.

Also on FB marketplace people do this with cars & parts you pay a deposit & then get ghosted.

 

[Vamino]

Yeah, this type of deposit scam is all over the place.

My cousins husband had been looking for a specific motorbike as a project, he seen one on Facebook marketplace for cheap and sent a message to the seller.

The seller replied back and said someone is coming around on the afternoon to have a look. My family member said they will buy it sight unseen, leave a small deposit and then collect it on the weekend.

He sent a BT payment and then found out the seller relisted the bike in another area for the same good price. The penny then dropped that he got scammed, contacted the bank and they refunded his money.

Seems the seller had been doing it for ages the cheeky sod.

 

[qjuk]

Sorry to hear it looks like you’ve been had
There seems to be a spate of dishonest PM‘s going around lately.

I would recommend to everyone that if you are dealing with anybody you don’t know (or who is not an established member on here or well known in the community), then only sent money via Paypal Goods and Services if not dealing in person. If the seller won’t accept a G&S payment, then simply walk away.

 

[Lukey13]

Ive had exactly this but with a different user, gave me an email address to contact about an item I’m looking for… Smelt bullshit pretty quickly tbh

 

[Chihiro]

They just want you off the platform onto email as quickly as possible so that is the red flag & they rarely post in the threads too.

 

[newlands1]

This is him

 

[John Bennett]

Put that name into google, they've been busy.
It's a little surprising they don't use a unique name for each forum

 

[Deleted member 7540]

I've had this for both a Universal High Score PCB and ridge racer PCB.

Both same story as all of you, email to talk outside of the forum. When that came up I ghosted them. There is no good reason you to ever have to trade outside of the forum, huge red flag. IT seems these people are going over the wanted posts and PM'ing people. Shady bast**ds

Stay vigilant and @newlands1 sorry you got caught out

 

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You can put in a claim with Paypal as from 7th October 2024 new rules regarding chaps payment (payment out your bank via paypal to another UK account) is covered for fraud. You can contact customer services and put it in a claim and submit your evidence. They normally take 7 days to make a decision. Worth a shot

 

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Oh shit , Did you pay them on paypal ( I know you paid into there's )?? If so you are covered and can get your money back, well as long as you did not do friends and family. There are so many of these at the moment , Its disgusting what some scum will do to extract money from people.

I would love 10 minutes in a room with these despicable money grabbing pricks !

Sorry it really enrages me , Were they not brought up like the rest of us ??

Dave.

They cover friends and family fraud now too

APP Fraud is a type of fraudulent activity though which someone tricks or deceives you into sending a payment to a fraudster. This may result in you authorising a payment for goods that you never receive or to a person other than whom you believed you were paying.

Common features of APP Fraud may include a request to designate a payment for friends and family when you’re being offered goods or services, offers that are "too good to be true," pleas for sympathy or to act urgently, or the appearance that you’re paying a trusted person or institution. Learn more about APP Fraud in our Security Centre.

 

[Alpha1]

Sorry you got caught.

berryalex1224 user locked and disabled

Please continue to report any users that send you PMs and offer you items on your wanted lists with low posts and no feedback. We continue to look at each and every one.

www.ukvac.com

 

[Fantazia2]

They cover friends and family fraud now too

APP Fraud is a type of fraudulent activity though which someone tricks or deceives you into sending a payment to a fraudster. This may result in you authorising a payment for goods that you never receive or to a person other than whom you believed you were paying.

Common features of APP Fraud may include a request to designate a payment for friends and family when you’re being offered goods or services, offers that are "too good to be true," pleas for sympathy or to act urgently, or the appearance that you’re paying a trusted person or institution. Learn more about APP Fraud in our Security Centre.

Funnily enough Paypal just sent an email out regarding APP protection. See the section about sending as Friends and Family, they are saying its not covered by APP fraud.

APP Fraud Rules​

We want to let you know about important rules that might help to protect you in the event you are a victim of Authorised Push Payment (APP) Fraud.

What is an APP Fraud?​

APP Fraud is a type of fraudulent activity though which someone tricks or deceives you into sending a payment to a fraudster. This may result in you authorising a payment for goods that you never receive or to a person other than whom you believed you were paying.

Common features of APP Fraud may include a request to designate a payment for friends and family when you’re being offered goods or services, offers that are "too good to be true," pleas for sympathy or to act urgently, or the appearance that you’re paying a trusted person or institution. Learn more about APP Fraud in our Security Centre.

The APP Fraud rules​

On 7 October 2024, new rules came into force that protect payments made by individuals, micro-enterprises or small charities where these are made through the Faster Payments or CHAPS systems. PayPal uses these systems to send money from your PayPal account to your bank account. Under these rules, you may be entitled to be refunded where you have lost money due to APP Fraud on or after 7 October 2024, up to a maximum of £85,000 per claim.

When do the APP Fraud rules apply?​

You are an individual, micro-enterprise or small charity and you made a payment using the Faster Payments or CHAPS systems which was subject to an APP Fraud. The payment was executed in the UK and received by a UK bank account. The payment was made on or after 7 October 2024.

When do the APP Fraud rules not apply?​

We will consider each claim on a case-by-case basis, but there are some circumstances where you may not be entitled to a refund. This includes where:

You are not an individual, micro-enterprise or small charity and/or the fraud does not meet the definition of an APP Fraud (as summarised above). You have acted fraudulently or dishonestly in bringing the claim and/or are party to the APP Fraud. You have not acted with an appropriate level of care. For example:

You ignored specific warnings from us about the payment you made. You did not notify us of the APP Fraud promptly or, in any event, within 13 months of the most recent payment. You did not respond to our reasonable requests for information about the APP Fraud. You refuse to report or allow us to report the APP Fraud to the police.

How to make a claim​

If you believe you have been the victim of an APP Fraud, please submit a claim by contacting our customer service team. You can reach us by logging into your PayPal account and clicking Contact Us at the bottom of any page to call or message us.

We will usually make a decision within 5 business days of your claim. We may take longer if we need more information from you and/or the bank that received the APP Fraud payment. In all cases, we will make a decision within 35 business days of your claim.

If you are unhappy with our decision, you can use our existing complaints process to let us know and see if we can fix things.

Other types of APP Fraud​

These rules do not apply to other PayPal payments including when you send money from a PayPal account to another PayPal account or where you pay a business at checkout using PayPal. Our Buyer Protection Program may apply to these payments.

Where you send money from your PayPal account to another PayPal account as a friends and family payment, you are not entitled to be refunded under either the APP Fraud rules or the Buyer Protection Program. Please follow this link for further information on friends and family scams.

How to protect yourself against APP Fraud and other scams​

The following link provides further information that may help you identify common scams and avoid becoming a victim of fraud.

User Agreement​

We are updating our User Agreement to reflect these new rules by 9 April 2025.

 

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Funnily enough Paypal just sent an email out regarding APP protection. See the section about sending as Friends and Family, they are saying its not covered by APP fraud.

APP Fraud Rules​

We want to let you know about important rules that might help to protect you in the event you are a victim of Authorised Push Payment (APP) Fraud.

What is an APP Fraud?​

APP Fraud is a type of fraudulent activity though which someone tricks or deceives you into sending a payment to a fraudster. This may result in you authorising a payment for goods that you never receive or to a person other than whom you believed you were paying.

Common features of APP Fraud may include a request to designate a payment for friends and family when you’re being offered goods or services, offers that are "too good to be true," pleas for sympathy or to act urgently, or the appearance that you’re paying a trusted person or institution. Learn more about APP Fraud in our Security Centre.

The APP Fraud rules​

On 7 October 2024, new rules came into force that protect payments made by individuals, micro-enterprises or small charities where these are made through the Faster Payments or CHAPS systems. PayPal uses these systems to send money from your PayPal account to your bank account. Under these rules, you may be entitled to be refunded where you have lost money due to APP Fraud on or after 7 October 2024, up to a maximum of £85,000 per claim.

When do the APP Fraud rules apply?​

You are an individual, micro-enterprise or small charity and you made a payment using the Faster Payments or CHAPS systems which was subject to an APP Fraud. The payment was executed in the UK and received by a UK bank account. The payment was made on or after 7 October 2024.

When do the APP Fraud rules not apply?​

We will consider each claim on a case-by-case basis, but there are some circumstances where you may not be entitled to a refund. This includes where:

You are not an individual, micro-enterprise or small charity and/or the fraud does not meet the definition of an APP Fraud (as summarised above). You have acted fraudulently or dishonestly in bringing the claim and/or are party to the APP Fraud. You have not acted with an appropriate level of care. For example:

You ignored specific warnings from us about the payment you made. You did not notify us of the APP Fraud promptly or, in any event, within 13 months of the most recent payment. You did not respond to our reasonable requests for information about the APP Fraud. You refuse to report or allow us to report the APP Fraud to the police.

How to make a claim​

If you believe you have been the victim of an APP Fraud, please submit a claim by contacting our customer service team. You can reach us by logging into your PayPal account and clicking Contact Us at the bottom of any page to call or message us.

We will usually make a decision within 5 business days of your claim. We may take longer if we need more information from you and/or the bank that received the APP Fraud payment. In all cases, we will make a decision within 35 business days of your claim.

If you are unhappy with our decision, you can use our existing complaints process to let us know and see if we can fix things.

Other types of APP Fraud​

These rules do not apply to other PayPal payments including when you send money from a PayPal account to another PayPal account or where you pay a business at checkout using PayPal. Our Buyer Protection Program may apply to these payments.

Where you send money from your PayPal account to another PayPal account as a friends and family payment, you are not entitled to be refunded under either the APP Fraud rules or the Buyer Protection Program. Please follow this link for further information on friends and family scams.

How to protect yourself against APP Fraud and other scams​

The following link provides further information that may help you identify common scams and avoid becoming a victim of fraud.

User Agreement​

We are updating our User Agreement to reflect these new rules by 9 April 2025.

Agh damn I misinterpreted the whole thing as I thought it would be covered as it comes out your bank account and is considered a CHAPS payment. Doesn't make it clear as it is fraud and an APP fraud