Diablo Brothers

[K1ngarth3r]

It seems I have very odd taste in video games growing up, and most of the games I enjoyed don't seem all that popular now with the mainstream of gamers (Pit-Fighter, Mad Dog McCree as examples).

Even though those aren't that popular, you can still find some information on them and even manage to find them to buy (all be it by waiting a decade to do so in some cases).

I was speaking with a friend who enjoys similar games to me, and he mentioned playing a game called Diablo Brothers on an upright cabinet. it looked very similar to Mad Dog, only he said he actually enjoyed this one more! (Blasphemy!)



It turns out, Diablo Brothers was the English version of the Spanish game Zorton Brothers (Los Justicieros) which was made by a company called Pixmatic S.A.

Searching the Internet for Diablo Brothers brings zero responses back, the game as vanished from the face of the earth! I'm pretty sure the other Pixmatic games had English releases (such as Marbella Vice).

Does anyone have any information about these English ports, any pictures, artwork, stories or leads on where I can find the cabinet / rom / disk / artwork or anything?

I would really like to try and preserve this game (Pixmatic games) if possible.

NB: Since as far as I'm aware, this unique to the UK I think here is the best chance I have to find information on these titles since (DLP experts are either in the US or Europe and Europe seem to get the Spanish versions with not much knowledge of the English versions).



K1ngarth3r2021-06-15 09:51:13

 

[TheDaddy]

Are you mad !!!! I love Mad Dog McCree !!! One of my favourite games , So many memories of playing it (Well trying) felt so real back then too. I have a mame setup with the IR guns and running mad dog but its not great , i need bigger screen. When i do my arcade room (10 years and still waiting) then I would love to build one solely for the laser shooting games.



I remember this as I nearly got killed for real the same day I saw it for the first time ! (Long story)


Dave.

 

[K1ngarth3r]

I know there are fans but it hardly ever gets talked about and makes it feel there is no interest

I think Mad Dog is only available in SINGE / SINGE 2 which simulates the game rather than emulates. It doesn't really look as good or play as good as the real deal (and as you say you need a big ass screen for it to enjoy properly). When they emulate the LPD-1450 player into MAME then at least the port will be accurate.

When you get time post the long story

 

[mx5dob]

Marbella Vice looks amazing!
Loved playing Mad Dog back in the day. They used to have a similar game in Buffalo Joe's Western theme bar on Newcastle's Quayside back in the early 2000's but not sure which one it was.

 

[Bods]

Never heard of it either but like you I always found the games interesting

A Miami Vice one would of been Awesome

Thinking about it, there isn't any reason you couldn't do your own game really is there?

I mean film some footage and you could add it to one of the original games roms, if you watched the Mad Dog play through and copied it to put the parts in same order, could be done right? as game board or emulator only plays correct bits in the correct order, with the stuff you can buy to emulate you only need AVI or MP4 video files

How fun would that be

 

[K1ngarth3r]

Yes, it does look good.

Funny enough, I remember seeing Marbella Vice at Alton Towers in maybe 1995 on a school trip! It had terrible English dubbing and thought to myself this is a poor mans ALG game! It was the Super Magic Laser version (i.e. the deluxe cabinet). I would love to find that cabinet though!!

I wonder what the game was called at Buffalo Joe's. I know Global VR released their ports of Mad Dog / The Last Bounty Hunter / Mad Dog II and Fast Draw Showdown on PC hardware in the early 2000's so could have been that.

 

[Bods]

I have the PC from Global VR with one game, just Fast Draw Showdown on it I think, be nice to get some more of the games for it

https://youtu.be/40G9Dmt78uY

Bods2021-06-16 08:46:55

 

[Bods]

Picmatic matey

http://thevideogamesmuseum.blogspot.com/2017/03/los-justicieros-pc.html

Nice Mad Dog Pic on there

 

[SUPERSPRINT]

I got mad dog Mcree on the Wii a while ago, but it doesn’t play very well. Always remember it being on the gamemaster tv show years ago.

 

[Bods]

I got mad dog Mcree on the Wii a while ago, but it doesn’t play very well. Always remember it being on the gamemaster tv show years ago.

Thats the problem and why I wanted original machine. I bought game for PC when it was released as always remembered the big queue to play it in Arcade, forget which arcade it was. but playing it with mouse does take some of the fun out of it

Mate said to me about he played it on Philips CDi, reckend it was brilliant, mind you the amount of other things I bought or tried after his recommendation which turned out to be crap I eventually stopped listening to his nonsense lol, I picked up the Gun set in the box and CDI system from Tip one day, CD game was missing so got one from ebay and tried it out, it was hopeless, that system was like Wii with sensor bar to go on TV, it had a second or so lag, how on earth you can play a quick reaction game like that is beyond me, with how well technology had come on with Wii I thought it would work pretty good on that

Only way for me is with proper light gun setup as no lag etc with them, how well they play with Emulator setup I don't know. Was having issues on mame with Act labs light guns and getting them working right

 

[ChrisBEANS]

If the PC version plays well, then look into the Sinden light gun.

I don’t have one yet, so not speaking from experience, but research suggests that it works on basically everything. Certainly PC.

 

[K1ngarth3r]

Thinking about it, there isn't any reason you couldn't do your own game really is there?

I mean film some footage and you could add it to one of the original games roms, if you watched the Mad Dog play through and copied it to put the parts in same order, could be done right? as game board or emulator only plays correct bits in the correct order, with the stuff you can buy to emulate you only need AVI or MP4 video files

How fun would that be

Could be done yes, in fact the guys behind Singe 2.0 are making their own Dragon's Lair type games so no reason why some couldn't make these type of games too.

I heard that all 3 PicMatic games have been dumped via Doomsday Duplicator so we should see them in MAME soon (although not playable due to the LDP-1550 emulation not being available yet (BIOS needs decrypting).

A friend of mine who works in the SINGE team should be porting them though. As far as I'm aware these are the Spanish versions not the English dubbed versions. I'm not aware of anyone who owns the English dubbed versions.

 

[K1ngarth3r]

From personal experience, to play these games properly you need a 45" 4.3 screen and use original arcade hardware.

SINGE (PC version) are okay and should work okay with the gun but will not be the same experience (but would be better than nothing for sure).

 

[DirtBagXon]

Guys, I don't have any interaction here and for that I apologize for bumping this old thread, but we are attempting to hunt down the fabled English dub audio track from Diablo Brothers for the Hypseus project.

We have recently released a Marbella Vice simulation, which allows playing across many OS unlike the rather klunky WinUAE version.
This is all using the stacked DomesDay86 rips of the Picmatic discs. You should be able to find details of this release on YouTube, I won't post a link in case it breaks any rules.

A reignited search for this dubbed English Diablo Brothers audio track is on...

 

[Bods]

Sometimes it's good old threads like this are brought up again as you forget about things and that sounds great what your doing

I recently bought a Light Gun for the PC Dos version of Mad Dog, didn't know they had made one before seeing it on ebay, don't really need it but thought it was nice to have with the game as I have old PC and CRT monitor

 

[mx5dob]

love the sound of Marbella Vice!!!

 

[DirtBagXon]

Thanks for the responses guys, I wasn't too sure about asking here, but there is so little info on this Diablo Brothers audio track, that this thread seems like it's the only thread of any consequence. The aim is to try to get these Spanish laserdisc games easily playable.

I do hope you give Marbella Vice a go, it really is very well done. The games are created by 2 Sinden lightgun owners who are meticulous on getting these games correct. As far as lightguns go, the Sinden is definitely a top contender out there on anything that's not original hardware or CRT.

 

[K1ngarth3r]

I would say it’s worth a post on Arcade Collectors Europe (Facebook) and KLOV forum.

I’ve been searching for this release and only a couple of people even remember seeing it.

 

[DirtBagXon]

I would say it’s worth a post on Arcade Collectors Europe (Facebook) and KLOV forum.

I’ve been searching for this release and only a couple of people even remember seeing it.

Thanks, I will see if we can pursue this. To be honest I'm not holding out much hope.

At the back of my mind I'm thinking, is it just part Mandela Effect after playing Tierras Salvajes, it's sister title in later 1995, which certainly had an English audio track..

The name was certainly an "intended" title as this appears in the Marbella Vice laserdisc as a trailer at frame 44992 for just a few frames, tucked randomly in among the death scenes...



Also pictures of a cab with multiple artworks:


But neither prove the existence of an English audio track on Diablo....

Note, there is both an English and German manual for the Zorton Cab.
But I've never seen a claim of German audio, so that doesn't lend any credence either....

Our current train of though is Diablo was an early international name, that was later changed to Zorton. The images certainly re-enforce that the name was existent, but the cab photo has both logos so could have easily been an early prototype shipment that had both logos attached rather than the earlier one removed. What is curious is why the Marbella Vice laserdisc has that name Diablo the following year from Zorton release. But again production dates on the laserdisc and game development are foggy and could have been relatively close......

 

[K1ngarth3r]

A friend of mine remembers Diablo Brothers with English dubbing very clearly - It was on the east coast (Yorkshire), he did mention the name of the arcade and location but it was a while ago that we talked about it. I spoke with the owner and they don't have it. (He said he played it in the very late 90s).