Galaxian Hack, help needed with ROMS

[lesoleil70]

Hi,

I've got a "Taito style" cocktail that I've been tinkering with for a while now. It was originally a SI, but at some point it was converted to Galaxian, and the Boot/hack/clone instruction card is pictured below.

I'm keeping it as Galaxian and have gathered most of the pieces I need to make this a real nice machine, new alu decals etc thanks to Etienne as an example.

I've got 2 x cocktail boardsets here that run Galaxian clones, but I'm wanting to play Galaxian Turbo on one and have the other play Kamakaze III / Kamikaze III since this is what it spent a good proportion of it's live badged up as.

One board set already has Galaxian Turbo on it, so on that score I'm already sorted, infact you can forget I mentioned that game for the rest of the thread.

OK, now you know what I want, getting there is new territory for me. I have got all the roms I need in MAME, parent roms etc, but I'm completely clueless on how I get these hacked romsets and parent romsets working on original hardware. The file names are all different so I'm right confused.

For Kamikaze III, this is where I need the forum's help

Can anyone point me in the right direction?. I can't make any sense of what I'm seeing on the zip files in mame. I've attached a screen grab.

At time of writing I do not have a rom burner....but I could get one...I already have an EPROM eraser.

lesoleil702016-01-30 19:49:56

 

[Tighe]

I wonder as I have a Taito Space Invaders Part 2 cocktail that has a Galaxian clone board that plugs into the SI harness that has a Big Kong Galaxian conversion installed on the board. Does your board look like mine?
https://youtu.be/2wCpmMD_YOA

 

[lesoleil70]

It's a 2 board stack , but no doubt it's the same pinout, it's the standard Galxaxian pinout.
Funny I do have a board like yours but without the daughter board and all the jumper wires, it was the one that was originally in it when I had it, and it plays Std Namco Galaxian. It was horribly wedged in at an angle, I was not happy with that board in there at all.

 

[Hurray Banana]

If you look at the mame source for that driver, you'll be able to look at the rom load statements, this will tell you want addressing range they are loaded to. This may help you figure out which rom goes where on the board

 

[lesoleil70]

Thanks Hurray - I've found this, I think I'm on the right track, this is new territory for me now.

https://github.com/amadvance/advancemame/blob/e514cedef73de5e488eaacf89f6523ccbbbe4fd2/src/drivers/galaxian.c

Seems to have every ruddy game on galaxian.c driver apart from Kamikazi III on there. Tried finding other games with similar file names but failed.

I've also found this site, I can see where the parent rom 6l.bpr parent rom comes into play now, and I guess it's just a case of matching the rest if only I could find where to get this info.

Anyone fancy getting the crayola out and drawing some lines on the pic for me?

.

 

[Hurray Banana]

If this is a galaxian board, here are the rom loads for Galaxian from the driver and also the rom loads for Kamikaze from the driver. You can see which are loaded into the same address space. If you can found out the location of the midway roms you should be able to work out where the kamikaze ones go.

I hope the table renders properly (yay it did

)

Jon did a repair of one of these in this thread

http://www.ukvac.com/forum/kamikaze-pcb_topic337979.html

ROM_START( galaxian ) ROM_REGION( 0x4000, "maincpu", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.u", 0x0000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.v", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.w", 0x1000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.y", 0x1800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "7l", 0x2000, 0x0800, ROM_REGION( 0x1000, "gfx1", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "1h.bin", 0x0000, 0x0800 ROM_LOAD( "1k.bin", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_END

ROM_START( kamakazi3 ) /* Hack of Video Games (UK) Ltd. version???? flyer spells it Kamakaze III, also no year or (c) */ ROM_REGION( 0x4000, "maincpu", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "f_r_a.bin", 0x0000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_a.bin", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_b.bin", 0x1000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_r_c.bin", 0x1800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_r_d.bin", 0x2000, 0x0800, ROM_REGION( 0x1000, "gfx1", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "r_b.bin", 0x0000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "r_a.bin", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_END

Hurray Banana2016-01-30 23:15:46

 

[lesoleil70]

If this is a galaxian board, here are the rom loads for Galaxian from the driver and also the rom loads for Kamikaze from the driver. You can see which are loaded into the same address space. If you can found out the location of the midway roms you should be able to work out where the kamikaze ones go.

I hope the table renders properly

Jon did a repair of one of these in this thread

http://www.ukvac.com/forum/kamikaze-pcb_topic337979.html

ROM_START( galaxian ) ROM_REGION( 0x4000, "maincpu", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.u", 0x0000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.v", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.w", 0x1000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "galmidw.y", 0x1800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "7l", 0x2000, 0x0800, ROM_REGION( 0x1000, "gfx1", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "1h.bin", 0x0000, 0x0800 ROM_LOAD( "1k.bin", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_END

ROM_START( kamakazi3 ) /* Hack of Video Games (UK) Ltd. version???? flyer spells it Kamakaze III, also no year or (c) */ ROM_REGION( 0x4000, "maincpu", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "f_r_a.bin", 0x0000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_a.bin", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_b.bin", 0x1000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_r_c.bin", 0x1800, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "f_r_d.bin", 0x2000, 0x0800, ROM_REGION( 0x1000, "gfx1", 0 ) ROM_LOAD( "r_b.bin", 0x0000, 0x0800, ROM_LOAD( "r_a.bin", 0x0800, 0x0800, ROM_END

You absolute legend

, where did you find this info?

 

[Hurray Banana]

It's in the massive Galaxian.c driver (10945 lines of code!)

You can get hold of the entire source for mame from here http://mamedev.org/release.html

 

[jonhughes]

I have this PCB, as stated in the thread. At the time my EPROM programmer couldn't do 2716 chips. I've now sorted that with another. I managed to read the data off one of the chips that wasn't operating correctly and now it's fully fixed.

I can provide you with an EPROM set for a small fee, if you would like or I can send you the files.

However, reading the game description the Kamikaze 3 PCB I have is a Galaxian hack. It doesn't have flying saucers, tanks or debris. This could be another game by Taito which has disappeared.jonhughes2016-01-31 13:00:24

 

[Tighe]

I know in the beginning of my video I'm only showing a single board, I hope you saw mine is a two board.

Also, the side edge connector is the same as the side edge connector on a Galaxian, but the other connectors are the as SI part 2.

 

[lesoleil70]

I have this PCB, as stated in the thread. At the time my EPROM programmer couldn't do 2716 chips. I've now sorted that with another. I managed to read the data off one of the chips that wasn't operating correctly and now it's fully fixed.

I can provide you with an EPROM set for a small fee, if you would like or I can send you the files.

However, reading the game description the Kamikaze 3 PCB I have is a Galaxian hack. It doesn't have flying saucers, tanks or debris. This could be another game by Taito which has disappeared.

Might be that my opening paragraph was misleading, I meant the machine itself was once a SI, it was long converted including PCB to a galaxian boot PCB running Galaxian.

PM incoming ref the EPROMS, sounds like the set I need looking at your other thread.

 

[jonhughes]

Hi that's ok, I was referring to the photo of the 'Play Instructions' in your opening post. It's by Taito and states Kamikaze 3 it could just hold the same name as the Galaxian Hack (also Kamikaze 3).

 

[favouredson]

I think Jon might have something.
The instructions mention tanks, planes & landing saucers which sounds nothing like a Galaxian clone.

 

[lesoleil70]

I think Jon might have something.
The instructions mention tanks, planes & landing saucers which sounds nothing like a Galaxian clone.

Yep it's a mystery, I tweeted about it earlier also hoping to get some information on what this could be describing. Does this sound like a known game? Certainly no Galaxian or clone I've ever encountered.

https://twitter.com/lesoleil70/status/693849151847731201

Anyway....the intention is for me to put Kamikaze III on a boardset in here and swap back and forth with Galaxian Turbo.....and if I really get adventurous Swarm also...loved that hack....

Might help if I threw up some pics of the boards and the machine eh...

Sorry this is rotated, tablet not playing ball tonight...

 

[lesoleil70]

Found this making reference to a Kamikaze III Taito board.

https://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=info&page=TaitoBoardList.txt

Why isn't this hobby straight forward?

and this....http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=629

edit and a link to the ROMS, sorry if this breaks rules, I'l edit the post if it does.

Kamikaze (Leijac) 1979

edit 2(link removed) - but it's available at all good bookshops.

lesoleil702016-01-31 22:32:38

 

[Hurray Banana]

It is against the rules mate

Never played this, before a bit different, it runs off the Astro Invader driver astinvad.c, which is for z80 simple colour bitmap games. Don't know what the original board is, it could be running on Stern's AStro Invader board but the driver don't have much detail in it (as far as I can see).

 

[favouredson]

The Leijac game is the one listed on System16 but it is clearly not the game in the instruction sheet.

The saucer does fall and kills you if it lands but there are no planes or attacking flying enemies, the ones in this game simply fall rather than 'fly' or 'attack'.

 

[favouredson]

That looks like a Moon Cresta bootleg rather than Galaxian.

 

[Shinydaz]

Does anyone know the pinout of this board, is it just the standard galaxian one? I've just taken delivery of a pcb that is exactly the same.

Cheers

Daz

 

[Shinydaz]

Did you get this board running and confirm the rom sets? Mine is just showing a blue screen with bits of yellow, but it's not syncing properly, might have to go over the adapter I made but pretty sure its correct.