Scammed on Loot

[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Scammed on Loot
About 6 weeks ago I saw an advert in Loot.com for an arcade machine + 8
games for £200. One of the games was R-type Leo, so I rang the phone
number and got talking to a Jonathan Mayor from Manchester. He hadn't
actually put the advert on Loot (it must have been passed from a local
ad-mag) He agreed to send me R-Type Leo for £60 ( a great deal I
thought). As he requested, payment was by cheque which he received and
cashed about 4 days later.
2 weeks later, no game, so I phoned him again. He informed me that the
game was in a machine in someone else's building and the owner had
fallen ill and.... Also we mentioned posting and he explained that
sending the game would be easy as it is only one board and little
bigger than a sheet of A4. Stupidly I agreed to give him another 2
weeks to send the game. He gave me his mobile number as he was in the
process of moving house at the time.

Now, it's six weeks, I have no game, he has £60 and my parent's bank
account number, he has moved house and I can't contact him as his
mobile phone number is incorrect. He also has an ultra-compact version
of R-Type Leo that probably doesn't exist.

Needless to say this rather pisses me off, but it's not worth hiring a
PI and a hitman for £60.

Anyone have any advice? All I have is his old address, phone number and
a recording of all but the first phone conversation (he wasn't aware I
did this).

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[John Bennett]

Hi John,

try your bank.

They should be able to obtain for you the name and adress of the person who cashed the cheque.

(At least that is how it works in Germany).

In any case it is worth a try.

LMK

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Datum: Sonntag, 28. November 1999 11:35
Betreff: [ukvac] Scammed on Loot

About 6 weeks ago I saw an advert in Loot.com for an arcade machine + 8
games for &pound;200. One of the games was R-type Leo, so I rang the phone
number and got talking to a Jonathan Mayor from Manchester. He hadn't
actually put the advert on Loot (it must have been passed from a local
ad-mag) He agreed to send me R-Type Leo for &pound;60 ( a great deal I
thought). As he requested, payment was by cheque which he received and
cashed about 4 days later.
2 weeks later, no game, so I phoned him again. He informed me that the
game was in a machine in someone else's building and the owner had
fallen ill and.... Also we mentioned posting and he explained that
sending the game would be easy as it is only one board and little
bigger than a sheet of A4. Stupidly I agreed to give him another 2
weeks to send the game. He gave me his mobile number as he was in the
process of moving house at the time.

Now, it's six weeks, I have no game, he has &pound;60 and my parent's bank
account number, he has moved house and I can't contact him as his
mobile phone number is incorrect. He also has an ultra-compact version
of R-Type Leo that probably doesn't exist.

Needless to say this rather pisses me off, but it's not worth hiring a
PI and a hitman for &pound;60.

Anyone have any advice? All I have is his old address, phone number and
a recording of all but the first phone conversation (he wasn't aware I
did this).

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[John Bennett]

Might be worth contacting Loot about it.



This is in there FAQ:



I'm not happy with a seller &#8211; what do I do?
Let us know about it. If you feel you have been misled in any way by an advertiser then send us feedback.

I know some magazines will compensate anyone who's been shafted by one of their advertisers, probably doesn't count for private small ads but at least they will remove his ad from the website, so no one else will get ripped off by it.



You never know, Loot might give you some compensation or at least advice about what to do next.

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"john bennett" <j.w.bennet-@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ukvac/?start=3777
> About 6 weeks ago I saw an advert in Loot.com for an arcade machine + 8
> games for £200. One of the games was R-type Leo, so I rang the phone
> number and got talking to a Jonathan Mayor from Manchester. He hadn't
> actually put the advert on Loot (it must have been passed from a local
> ad-mag) He agreed to send me R-Type Leo for £60 ( a great deal I
> thought). As he requested, payment was by cheque which he received and
> cashed about 4 days later.
> 2 weeks later, no game, so I phoned him again. He informed me that the
> game was in a machine in someone else's building and the owner had
> fallen ill and.... Also we mentioned posting and he explained that
> sending the game would be easy as it is only one board and little
> bigger than a sheet of A4. Stupidly I agreed to give him another 2
> weeks to send the game. He gave me his mobile number as he was in the
> process of moving house at the time.
>
> Now, it's six weeks, I have no game, he has £60 and my parent's bank
> account number, he has moved house and I can't contact him as his
> mobile phone number is incorrect. He also has an ultra-compact version
> of R-Type Leo that probably doesn't exist.
>
> Needless to say this rather pisses me off, but it's not worth hiring a
> PI and a hitman for £60.
>
> Anyone have any advice? All I have is his old address, phone number and
> a recording of all but the first phone conversation (he wasn't aware I
> did this).
>
>

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Scammed on Loot
You'll be lucky, I used a guy to restore my beetle. HE ran off with my
cash and car I told em, and they STILL ran his ad the next month even
though he owed them money. Police dont want to know until you have sent
them a solicitors letter requesting your money / property back and you
have to give them time to respond. bottom line, your screwed. If a deal
seems to good to be true, then it is.

"lee richards" <lee.richard-@btinternet.com> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ukvac/?start=3780
> Might be worth contacting Loot about it.
>
> This is in there FAQ:
>
> I'm not happy with a seller &#8211; what do I do?
> Let us know about it. If you feel you have been misled in any way by
an
> advertiser then send us feedback.
>
>
> I know some magazines will compensate anyone who's been shafted by
one of
> their advertisers, probably doesn't count for private small ads but
at least
> they will remove his ad from the website, so no one else will get
ripped off
> by it.
>
> You never know, Loot might give you some compensation or at least
advice
> about what to do next.
> --
> Regards
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>
> Cybercade - Classic Video Arcade Games
> http://www.btinternet.com/~lee.richards/
>
> ICQ# 44701326
>
>
>
>
> "john bennett" <j.w.bennet-@ncl.ac.uk> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ukvac/?start=3777
> > About 6 weeks ago I saw an advert in Loot.com for an arcade machine
+ 8
> > games for £200. One of the games was R-type Leo, so I rang the phone
> > number and got talking to a Jonathan Mayor from Manchester. He
hadn't
> > actually put the advert on Loot (it must have been passed from a
local
> > ad-mag) He agreed to send me R-Type Leo for £60 ( a great deal I
> > thought). As he requested, payment was by cheque which he received
and
> > cashed about 4 days later.
> > 2 weeks later, no game, so I phoned him again. He informed me that
the
> > game was in a machine in someone else's building and the owner had
> > fallen ill and.... Also we mentioned posting and he explained that
> > sending the game would be easy as it is only one board and little
> > bigger than a sheet of A4. Stupidly I agreed to give him another 2
> > weeks to send the game. He gave me his mobile number as he was in
the
> > process of moving house at the time.
> >
> > Now, it's six weeks, I have no game, he has £60 and my parent's bank
> > account number, he has moved house and I can't contact him as his
> > mobile phone number is incorrect. He also has an ultra-compact
version
> > of R-Type Leo that probably doesn't exist.
> >
> > Needless to say this rather pisses me off, but it's not worth
hiring a
> > PI and a hitman for £60.
> >
> > Anyone have any advice? All I have is his old address, phone number
and
> > a recording of all but the first phone conversation (he wasn't
aware I
> > did this).
> >
> >
>

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[mikenemonic]

[ukvac] Re: Scammed on Loot
Bummer!

Hmmm. A feeling of dread approaches .... Mention the name Jonathan and
Manchester in connection with arcade machines and the name Jonathan
Thompson' soon crops up. You may just have been shafted by the master. Join
the club. If you feel like giving him a ring on his home number (just in
case he is guilty), send me a private mail.

Regards

Mike Walden

 

[drallsopp]

[ukvac] Re: Scammed on Loot
>I know some magazines will compensate anyone who's been shafted by one of
>their advertisers, probably doesn't count for private small ads but at least

>they will remove his ad from the website, so no one else will get ripped off

>by it.

Magazines are covered by MOPS (Mail order protection service) I think, which
means that advertisers are guaranteed not to rip you off. Doesnt apply to private
ads :-(

I'd suggest the police. Obtaining money by deception is considered a very serious
crime by the police.

I saw the ad in Manchester too and was very tempted. Glad I wasn't.

Stu

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Scammed on Loot
MOPS isn't worth the paper its printed on, it doesn't cover private
ad's or the 'boxed' ads eg ABC computer supplies 123456 pc for £50. It
only covers the full page type ads. The magazines also have a nice
little get out clause saying they arn't responsible etc even when loads
of people have rung them up telling them its a con. Trading standards
were even less help, they arn't allowed to tell you if a person /
company has any complaints against them, there advise was if they dont
take credit cards then dont deal with them. bastards !!!!
I still havent got my car or money back, but a lot of freinds have
offered to break his legs, which is always worth a thought.
If in doubt pay by plastic, then its down to the credit card co to
chase them up, and you will get your money back.

(dont use VeeWeld or a guy called Matt Lloyd for any sort of car / boat
work !)

"mike walden" <mik-@nemonic.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ukvac/?start=3788
> Bummer!
>
> Hmmm. A feeling of dread approaches .... Mention the name Jonathan and
> Manchester in connection with arcade machines and the name Jonathan
> Thompson' soon crops up. You may just have been shafted by the
master. Join
> the club. If you feel like giving him a ring on his home number (just
in
> case he is guilty), send me a private mail.
>
> Regards
>
> Mike Walden
>
>
>
>
>

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