How bad is import duty on stuff from Japan?

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There's some PC Engine games etc. that I'm thinking of buying from sellers in Japan, and just wondered what the import duty is like? From what I gather, it's unlikely sellers there will mark-down the value or send as a gift. Anyone with experience of buying from Japan, please advise. :)

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I thought it had all changed and is now a lower threshold for gifts as opposed to merchandise. A big difference, like only £35 for a gift before duty whereas can be a lot more before duty for a normal purchase. Maybe that's VAT.

Could be wrong. Often am 😆
 

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Parcel Force will charge a 'handling charge' based on the declared value of your item and unless paid, will keep hold of your parcel before sending it back to the sender. I buy games from Yahoo Auctions through a third party proxy bidder (Buyee) but also via friends who are based out there. I tend to use the third party proxy bidding service to buy stuff and then send onto my mate who will then forward onto me but as a drastically reduced declared amount. However, if I've won something rather expensive and want the full insurance, I'll just let Buyee deal with it so I know if it arrives damaged, I can claim off Japan Post.

I bid on a Sharp SF-1 Super Famicom TV and it arrived damaged (it still worked) so I made a claim with Buyee who assisted me with claiming against Japan Post. 9 months later I got the full value of the TV that I paid plus got to keep the TV. Luckily I had photos from the original auction and now Buyee have an inspection service that you can pay for to make sure there's no damage in transit from the local sender to the Buyee depot before they send it internationally.
 

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Parcel Force will charge a 'handling charge' based on the declared value of your item and unless paid, will keep hold of your parcel before sending it back to the sender. I buy games from Yahoo Auctions through a third party proxy bidder (Buyee) but also via friends who are based out there. I tend to use the third party proxy bidding service to buy stuff and then send onto my mate who will then forward onto me but as a drastically reduced declared amount. However, if I've won something rather expensive and want the full insurance, I'll just let Buyee deal with it so I know if it arrives damaged, I can claim off Japan Post.

I bid on a Sharp SF-1 Super Famicom TV and it arrived damaged (it still worked) so I made a claim with Buyee who assisted me with claiming against Japan Post. 9 months later I got the full value of the TV that I paid plus got to keep the TV. Luckily I had photos from the original auction and now Buyee have an inspection service that you can pay for to make sure there's no damage in transit from the local sender to the Buyee depot before they send it internationally.
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I don't have a mate in Japan, and I think Buyee might be overkill for my needs. I'm not buying off Yahoo in Japan (yet), but just things in Japan that are listed on ebay UK. I'm considering placing an order that may be around £2k, so wanted to get an idea of how badly I'm likely to be hit with import duty.
 

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Seems £135 is the threshold before customs duty

I guess I never imported more than that.

Once got fukd over by Parcel force for two Samba de Amigo DC games, almost doubling the price.
 

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Tax and duty​

You’ll be contacted by Royal Mail, Parcelforce or the courier company if you need to pay any VAT, duty or delivery charges (‘handling fees’) to receive your goods.
They’ll send you a bill stating exactly which fees you need to pay.
They’ll normally hold your parcel for about 3 weeks. If you have not paid the bill by then, your parcel will be returned to the sender.
You will not have to pay anything to the delivery company to receive goods worth less than £135 unless they’re gifts over £39 or excise goods (for example, alcohol and tobacco).

VAT​

VAT is charged on all goods (except for gifts worth £39 or less) sent from:
  • outside the UK to Great Britain
  • outside the UK and the EU to Northern Ireland
VAT is not charged on goods that are gifts worth £39 or less.
You pay VAT when you buy the goods or to the delivery company before you receive them. If you have to pay VAT to the delivery company, it’s charged on the total package value, including:
  • the value of the goods
  • postage, packaging and insurance
  • any duty you owe
VAT is charged at the VAT rate that applies to your goods.

Goods worth £135 or less in total​

If you bought the goods yourself and they are not excise goods, the seller will have included VAT in the total you paid.
You will need to pay VAT to the delivery company if the goods are:
  • gifts sent to you by someone else and worth more than £39
  • excise goods

Goods worth more than £135 in total​

You will have to pay VAT to the delivery company either before the goods are delivered or when you collect them.

Customs Duty​

You’ll be charged Customs Duty on all goods sent from outside the UK (or the UK and the EU if you’re in Northern Ireland) if they’re either:
  • excise goods
  • worth more than £135
If you’re charged Customs Duty, you’ll need to pay it on both:
  • the price paid for the goods
  • postage, packaging and insurance
Type and value of goodsCustoms Duty
Non-excise goods worth £135 or lessNo charge
Gifts and goods above £135The rate depends on the type of goods and where they came from - use the Trade Tariff service to check duty rates
You pay Customs Duty on excise goods of any value.

Excise Duty​

If you’re sent alcohol or tobacco from outside the UK, you’ll be charged Excise Duty at current rates.
If the goods are sent from the EU to Northern Ireland, check that the Excise Duty was included in the price. If it’s not, your goods may be seized.
It does not matter whether you buy the goods or they’re sent as a gift.
If you receive large amounts of alcohol or tobacco for your business, use the Trade Tariff service to check duty rates.
Your goods can also be seized if they’re:
  • spirits over 35 centilitres without a UK duty stamp
  • cigarettes or hand-rolling tobacco without UK health warnings or fiscal marks

If you’re charged too much or return your goods​

Ask for a refund of VAT or Customs Duty if you:
  • return your goods
  • think you’ve been charged too much
Download and fill in:
  • form BOR 286 if Royal Mail or Parcelforce delivered the goods
  • form C285 if a courier or freight company delivered the goods
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That's the BIG rip-off, when you're charged for the total cost so; the goods, postage and any insurance you take out. Then ParcelFarce want their £8 handling fee on top.

There are times I'll ask if the sender can send items individually as apposed to everything in a bundle to get it below the threshold.
 

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On eBay the global shipping program ( if the seller uses it) allows the duty to be worked out and displayed before you buy. The seller then sends the parcel to the eBay Hub locally and they do any inspection and forward it on. I've used it both as a seller and buyer and it avoids any nasty surprises/additional delivery fees and tends to reduce the postage cost.
 

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government specialises in robbing people,
like how 70-80% of the cost of petrol is "road fuel" tax,
and then the fucks charge you VAT on the tax!
thats not even legal, VAT is supposed to be "value added" tax, their is no gained value in taxes!

and then they launder it through ukraine back into their own private pockets and tell us the country is broke!
it's broke alright, just not in the financial sense!
 

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Well, it's not sounding too promising. 😆 Seems duty does depend on country of origin, then! I will have to weigh up if I want the goods enough to pay a bucket load of charges on top. Potentially. ☹️
 

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Try a uk supplier. Forgotten Worlds is in the uk and incorporates quite possibly the biggest Jap collection outside of Japan. The owner was a Jap specialist for the past 2 decades before opening the store and adding some uk stuff but he has a ridiculous amount of rare Jap stuff. He has PC Engine stuff that he takes to the various shows around the uk but will post stuff out if you need it now rather than waiting til he does a show in your area. Message the page and say what you want and I suspect he'll have it in stock. If you want a ukvac member to get involved then its only a 40 mile round trip for me so i'll go and buy stuff and post it to you on your behalf if you cover my diesel.

 
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Try a uk supplier. Forgotten Worlds is in the uk and incorporates quite possibly the biggest Jap collection outside of Japan. The owner was a Jap specialist for the past 2 decades before opening the store and adding some uk stuff but he has a ridiculous amount of rare Jap stuff. He has PC Engine stuff that he takes to the various shows around the uk but will post stuff out if you need it now rather than waiting til he does a show in your area. Message the page and say what you want and I suspect he'll have it in stock.

Thanks for the heads up. Sounds promising. I'll have a browse.
 
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