Road Tax On EV Cars and £0 2017> ICE Coming April 2025

[patloz]

They lost millions in fuel duty with the increase in EV sales over ICE vehicles, cant accept a hit that big in the duty coffers and not look to replace it elsewhere.

Silly thing is if they set EV RFL at an arbitary figure of say £150 a year from the word go no one would have batted an eyelid , but because it was zero from day one now they want to bring them in line with other vehicles EV drivers are throwing their toys out.

 

[big10p]

I quite recently had to pay a certain tax bill of over £140k so this all seems like peanuts. 😆 But yeah, it's the principle that matters, and the usual government chicanery. Don't get me started on politicians. Lol

 

[kingtreelo]

I used to drive a hybid, Tax at the time was £10 per year, they were even so kind as to break it down to let me pay it in 12 instalments!!
Been driving electric for 6 years now with no tax
Free charging at work, means I've spent very little on travel other than the car itself

so just the 35k car then

 

[Retroman839]

I built this last year.
12 panels clients new annual electricity bill £4

He’s getting a EV next year.
After we put another 10 on his house.
I also put a 6500 liter water capture tank under this building. Meaning he will have water to grow his fruit and veg
In the event of a draught.

 

[kingtreelo]

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I built this last year.
12 panels clients new annual electricity bill £4

He’s getting a EV next year.
After we put another 10 on his house.
I also put a 6500 liter water capture tank under this building. Meaning he will have water to grow his fruit and veg
In the event of a draught.

i'm sure someone with an out building like that really needs to save a bit of cash on his electricity use, bigger than my fucking house

 

[Akira99]

View attachment 20813
I built this last year.
12 panels clients new annual electricity bill £4

He’s getting a EV next year.
After we put another 10 on his house.
I also put a 6500 liter water capture tank under this building. Meaning he will have water to grow his fruit and veg
In the event of a draught.

Wow that is amazing I should get you to build me a log cabin to store my future arcade machines in.

 

[Bods]

View attachment 20813
I built this last year.
12 panels clients new annual electricity bill £4 What with hardly any Sun ever in UK

He’s getting a EV next year.
After we put another 10 on his house.
I also put a 6500 liter water capture tank under this building. Meaning he will have water to grow his fruit and veg
In the event of a draught. It never stops raining for long enough

Very nice that is and you need to grow your own food these days, how big is the house lol

 

[Vorbis]

View attachment 20813
I built this last year.
12 panels clients new annual electricity bill £4

He’s getting a EV next year.
After we put another 10 on his house.
I also put a 6500 liter water capture tank under this building. Meaning he will have water to grow his fruit and veg
In the event of a draught.

I was trying to work out why a draught would effect growing veg. It's always pretty draughty outside in my experience

 

[Retroman839]

Wow that is amazing I should get you to build me a log cabin to store my future arcade machines in.

For you anything 😎

 

[Retroman839]

I was trying to work out why a draught would effect growing veg. It's always pretty draughty outside in my experience

🤣🤣. Veg is pretty windy

 

[Retroman839]

Not to divert this thread away for
Gov.uk & tax.

But I did think this morning that the outlay of £12000 is excessive for
These Solar panels.
But if we are paying a lot for our energy in the future maybe an investment now
May be a good idea?

I don’t own shares in solar and I think will come down in value and the tech improve. It would be nice for all of us to be able to free the shackles of the big energy providers.
I told British Gas to take swan dive in feb! And switched to octopus.
And British Gas have today decoded I owe them £1700 as they just decided that they would revers the charges on what we had used. Out of the blue.

I can’t help feeling that they are just trying it on.

as octopus said they where in fact over charging me as their estimates where more than my actual usage.

I poked the bees nest and they are trying to sting me.

Had I not left them there would be none of this bullshit!

Always send them meter readings
As it’s your only proof of they send you bullshit bills.

 

[Vamino]

There's people that get paid to spend every penny of the money generated by tax payers, there doesn't seem to be any incentive to save money so it helps raise the living standards of the people paying tax multiple times on their income.

A while back I seen posters in peoples windows in the Kings Heath area of Bham shortly after the LEZ came into force. The posters said they wanted clean air for all and for the traffic reduction scheme to come into force, save the children type of posters. Now, I'm seeing Rethink LTN posters in windows. People are not happy when the realisation hits that they have been hoodwinked.

Having observed in real time how an inflation cycle happens, it's made me appreciate even more that focusing on reducing my debt whilst interest rates were low was the right move for me. I'd feel suffocated and crushed with the price rises coming from all angles.

I'm getting an electric work van next week, for me there's a tax break on having one, I can use the van for personal use without any tax implications for at least the next year or so, just enough time to retire my trusty 24 year old Polo and try and get my 40 year old Goff GTI back on the road. No longer will I be squirting adblue and diesel into the environment, so power up the coal, wood pellet and natural gas furnaces as I need to charge up me van!

 

[kingtreelo]

im guessing when you are saying you are getting a tax break, you are getting taxed 40% currently, and it may/will drop you down below that limit?

 

[Vamino]

im guessing when you are saying you are getting a tax break, you are getting taxed 40% currently, and it may/will drop you down below that limit?

No, if we use a work van for personal use then we have to pay tax for the privilege. It works out to about £600 per year. We still have to pay for each mile driven, but there's currently no system in place for electric miles so there's no way to input the miles used!

 

[Bods]

There's people that get paid to spend every penny of the money generated by tax payers, there doesn't seem to be any incentive to save money so it helps raise the living standards of the people paying tax multiple times on their income.

A while back I seen posters in peoples windows in the Kings Heath area of Bham shortly after the LEZ came into force. The posters said they wanted clean air for all and for the traffic reduction scheme to come into force, save the children type of posters. Now, I'm seeing Rethink LTN posters in windows. People are not happy when the realisation hits that they have been hoodwinked.

Having observed in real time how an inflation cycle happens, it's made me appreciate even more that focusing on reducing my debt whilst interest rates were low was the right move for me. I'd feel suffocated and crushed with the price rises coming from all angles.

I'm getting an electric work van next week, for me there's a tax break on having one, I can use the van for personal use without any tax implications for at least the next year or so, just enough time to retire my trusty 24 year old Polo and try and get my 40 year old Goff GTI back on the road. No longer will I be squirting adblue and diesel into the environment, so power up the coal, wood pellet and natural gas furnaces as I need to charge up me van!

I've seen the roads around kings heath what a joke, hardly helping the enviroment when you have to drive around in circles trying to find a way out

I'd like to know why Adblue went from 1.29 to 1.99 a Litre at the pump, they put fuel prices up but that was just taking the Pi$$ just glad I don't pay it

Our company were talking about EV Vans, were doing like 300+ miles a day and I can't even park it at my house so no where I can charge it, I suggested they base us closer to home which they could but said they can't afford too, but it's not going to cost much more because they'll save 12,000 miles of fuel a year but he said, company can write that cost off, so why they bothered about EV vans then

If I ever get my CRX on the road I'll race ya lol, not sure when that will happen though as it never stops raining long enough to work on em, getting fed up of it now, rain rain rain

 

[Vamino]

It's rare that I do more than 100 mile a day mate, so hopefully I wont get range anxiety. Apparently the range on the Vivaro van is 140 miles or thereabouts, obviously it's not the best but I can charge it up at supermarkets and petrol stations. Waiting for the day when the cars charge whilst driving similar to F-Zero, that should make things more interesting when driving. It'll extend travel times to distant places, so I guess I'll have to take more packed lunches and have some picnics!

These 'trial' forced schemes are a joke tbh, all they do is make things more congested in other areas and generate more pollution. Rather than come up with solutions where people don't have to use the car to travel to work and drop off/pick up the kids, these schemes generate more taxes and can create new rat runs that go through quiet neighbourhoods.

I traveled up to Scunthorpe at the weekend to pick up something I bought off eBay, clear motorways and dual carriageways going straight to a small affluent village with no traffic. Whilst the peons in places like Kings heath struggle to get items delivered because the roads are a maze.

I reckon your CRX will handily beat my GTI.

Back in the day I got destroyed by a work colleagues Nova, I was gutted at the time as his car looked a nail!
The final realisation that the car was slow was when I got beat by a 1.9 205 GTI, I felt like I was standing still when he left me in his dust.

 

[Bods]

It's rare that I do more than 100 mile a day mate, so hopefully I wont get range anxiety. Apparently the range on the Vivaro van is 140 miles or thereabouts, obviously it's not the best but I can charge it up at supermarkets and petrol stations. Waiting for the day when the cars charge whilst driving similar to F-Zero, that should make things more interesting when driving. It'll extend travel times to distant places, so I guess I'll have to take more packed lunches and have some picnics!

These 'trial' forced schemes are a joke tbh, all they do is make things more congested in other areas and generate more pollution. Rather than come up with solutions where people don't have to use the car to travel to work and drop off/pick up the kids, these schemes generate more taxes and can create new rat runs that go through quiet neighbourhoods.

I traveled up to Scunthorpe at the weekend to pick up something I bought off eBay, clear motorways and dual carriageways going straight to a small affluent village with no traffic. Whilst the peons in places like Kings heath struggle to get items delivered because the roads are a maze.

I reckon your CRX will handily beat my GTI.

Back in the day I got destroyed by a work colleagues Nova, I was gutted at the time as his car looked a nail!
The final realisation that the car was slow was when I got beat by a 1.9 205 GTI, I felt like I was standing still when he left me in his dust.

I've only got the 99bhp 1.5L MK1 and main reason for that was because I didn't want another 1.6 costing £300+ a year Tax though I should of thought ahead about 40 year old free tax, oh well I still like the Original but then bought MK2 1.5 import which i didnt know you could get, not keen on dual carbs though so its Getting D15b Vtec swap so 25bhp increase with same specs as uk 1.6 Dohc, if it ever stops raining long enough to work on it