Del Griffith
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I remember the 60hz patches on ps1 games. What i remember most is some of the terrible racism on the Paradox cracktros. I didn't see stuff that bad on the ST loaders but on the PS1 stuff it got really bad on some.
Modern Retro - a view
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Yeah, I rem that, you loaded the game an opened the Console right after the PS logo appeared and replaced the Disc with the 60hz version. I think the CD music struggled to Cue correctly though
kingtreelo
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i personally find the whole 60hz thing to be one of the most snobbish things about retro collecting, so i have consoles that run like that, yes, do i think the games are better...not in the slightest
i wouldnt go out of my way to get a 60hz mega drive to play Sonic on, for me it sounds stupid because the music is playing too fast compared to what i played when i was a kid, same with Mario World
i wouldnt go out of my way to get a 60hz mega drive to play Sonic on, for me it sounds stupid because the music is playing too fast compared to what i played when i was a kid, same with Mario World
I had a mate who was copying PS1 games, he could not copy them fast enough to meet demand. His most popular customers were Coppers as well, ironically! He had to stop in the end, he was getting too well known on his estate
thegreathopper
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All the tv’s I tried had no issues with 60 Hz, Sony, Hitachi, Panasonic were all good.
I had a Sony 29 inch stereo Trintron, great pic and sound.
The cheap ones were no good Grundig, springs to mind.
I had a Sony 29 inch stereo Trintron, great pic and sound.
The cheap ones were no good Grundig, springs to mind.
Yeah but the 60hz version is the way the programmer intended you to play it. I do get your point though, and yes, I am a retro snob
I am on about pre-1992 though. A Sony 29* would have been several thousand back then!
Del Griffith
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Sonic is diabolical running in 50hz
My Mom rented a TV and Video recorder from Visionhire and later Granada until I bought them myself.
Sounds like you were loaded having a 29' Sony!
Our rental TV displayed NTSC scart in B/W.
When trying to record gameplay on the video from an NTSC console, the picture rolled and was also in B/W.
So many hurdles to jump though just to play at 60hz back then, but playing Contra Alien Wars in RGB with the music blasting through the stereo was immense. Phono outputs from a TV was a revelation back then!
thegreathopper
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No it wasn’t, mine was about £600 brand new, I don’t recall seeing any TV’s for several thousand, and my US SNES was £100 without a game.
We had a great import store in Bath where I grew up and of course Superplay mag which convinced me to buy a import machine.
You had to block the lid mech switch, then listen for a noise the CD made then quickly swap the discs.
Never encountered any issues with music, and we rinsed Tekken 2 till the early hours most weekends.
kingtreelo
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i think what you meant to say was "Sonic is diabolical" and you added some extra stuff on the end
thegreathopper
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Not loaded but I had an ok job as a self employed electrician, it paid for all my hobbies, video games, skateboarding and music.My Mom rented a TV and Video recorder from Visionhire and later Granada until I bought them myself.
Sounds like you were loaded having a 29' Sony!
Our rental TV displayed NTSC scart in B/W.
When trying to record gameplay on the video from an NTSC console, the picture rolled and was also in B/W.
So many hurdles to jump though just to play at 60hz back then, but playing Contra Alien Wars in RGB with the music blasting through the stereo was immense. Phono outputs from a TV was a revelation back then!
kingtreelo
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i would also hedge a bet that a lot of people who played these 60hz consoles on CRTs were probably being limited to 50hz, but thought they were fantastic and bragged about how much faster and smoother the games ran
Think I tried it with an US NTSC PS1 with a PAL copy of WipEout. Tekken 2 was awesome in 60hz!
thegreathopper
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A 60Hz machine won’t play at 50 Hz, you seem a bit confused. It wont slow down because it’s a PAL TV.
kingtreelo
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thanks for being condescending, so please explain to me how a 60hz console plays on a TV that can only play at 50hz
thegreathopper
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It won’t play, you will just get wavy lines.
kingtreelo
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so how come all of my Japanese consoles play on my 50hz Trinitron?
Sony = Japanese quality set.
Good luck playing them on an old school Bush TV with a non RGB Euroconnector!