Are arcades viable given the cost of energy?
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Retroman839
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Joking aside
Been running my business for 20 years
Been defending myself and my brothers
Since my father passed when I was 9
Started working from 12. Left school 15 no gcse.
Business slowed last year when clients didn’t want to pay increased prices
Running my own business for more than 22 years now
Care for my family wife & baby
And my grandparents that Grandad drove a tank in Germany
And my Nan directed the raf from Dover castle.
That have spent there life savings on care
And now don’t have a pot to piss in.
I’m not going to go into it anymore than that
Just to say I know abject poverty I have lived it.
Please don’t take my sense of humour as insensitivity
It’s ment as just a bit of a laugh mate..
We all in this together…
All around the astro city for marshmallows and egg nog
Retroman8392022-08-26 21:18:34
Been running my business for 20 years
Been defending myself and my brothers
Since my father passed when I was 9
Started working from 12. Left school 15 no gcse.
Business slowed last year when clients didn’t want to pay increased prices
Running my own business for more than 22 years now
Care for my family wife & baby
And my grandparents that Grandad drove a tank in Germany
And my Nan directed the raf from Dover castle.
That have spent there life savings on care
And now don’t have a pot to piss in.
I’m not going to go into it anymore than that
Just to say I know abject poverty I have lived it.
Please don’t take my sense of humour as insensitivity
It’s ment as just a bit of a laugh mate..
We all in this together…
All around the astro city for marshmallows and egg nog
kingtreelo
Active member
looks like your issues are with the social care system, nothing to do woth the cost of living or the war currently ongoing
Retroman839
Senior Member
kingtreelo said:
I’ll give you that
Don’t mean to offend bud apologies if I did..
I am genuinely scared for my family
I don’t know what is happening with my grandparents financial situation right now
And yeh it’s daunting.
Have to wait and see what the next pm’s gov will do to help
Folks
Financially viable ?
Does that mean can we afford to run them in the
Energy crisis
How much do they cost to run say per hour?
That would simple depend on each individual persons disposable
Monies, along with there earnings.
Which would Be different for everyone.
But yeh the current situation is terrible
I only just bought a toaster and it’s a four slicer and I’m only putting
Two slices of bread in it!
Might take it back for a two slicer
Retroman8392022-08-26 22:19:57
I think if I was to start a business then I'd try and buy or rent a property with living accommodation attached then rent out my current house to cover some of the costs. Call me a cynic, but it's almost like this current economic downturn has been planned in advance to squash the little guys. It seems every 10 years or so there's a crash, climate issue, energy crisis and pandemic of somesort that the population has to pay for.
Keep this to yourselves as I don't want to spread rumors or conspiracies, but some guys in the 70's said oil is going to run out within 10 years during the 80's. So in order to stop it from running out, energy prices will be set by all the companies and most public energy companies will be privatised. Don't worry though, because there will be nothing left, there's no profit in it for those companies. They won't have a monopoly and won't be putting the price up to point where people can't afford it. And that's exactly what happened, oh wait a minute I may have gotten that the wrong way around.........
Joking aside, after all my time on this planet, I've come to the simple conclusion that we are being trolled by this system. The thing that really shows how the trolling works is when the GameStop Short Squeeze happened a while back causing the hedge fund traders who shorted their stock to lose a lot of money. It showed how people still hold more power than they thought.
To operate a successful business you really have to cover all bases though.
Supermarkets are pretty much becoming the new shopping malls now, smaller businesses are being forced to keep up or go under which isn't made easy in this climate. Banks are closing at an alarming rate, so imagine going to the supermarket to do your banking on a self checkout. You never know, they may install 1up software on them so you can play your favourite arcade game whilst scanning a bag of frozen brussell sprouts.
Keep this to yourselves as I don't want to spread rumors or conspiracies, but some guys in the 70's said oil is going to run out within 10 years during the 80's. So in order to stop it from running out, energy prices will be set by all the companies and most public energy companies will be privatised. Don't worry though, because there will be nothing left, there's no profit in it for those companies. They won't have a monopoly and won't be putting the price up to point where people can't afford it. And that's exactly what happened, oh wait a minute I may have gotten that the wrong way around.........
Joking aside, after all my time on this planet, I've come to the simple conclusion that we are being trolled by this system. The thing that really shows how the trolling works is when the GameStop Short Squeeze happened a while back causing the hedge fund traders who shorted their stock to lose a lot of money. It showed how people still hold more power than they thought.
To operate a successful business you really have to cover all bases though.
Supermarkets are pretty much becoming the new shopping malls now, smaller businesses are being forced to keep up or go under which isn't made easy in this climate. Banks are closing at an alarming rate, so imagine going to the supermarket to do your banking on a self checkout. You never know, they may install 1up software on them so you can play your favourite arcade game whilst scanning a bag of frozen brussell sprouts.
Retroman839
Senior Member
Can someone explain why electricy is going up in price?
neo-geo-mvs
Active member
gengle said:
Sleeper Cell account. Registered in 2013 but took 9 years to finally post/comment. What happened???
Thanks for your input anyway...
Funnily enough one of the main reasons for the gas shortages is because 2021 had lower winds than expected which meant that gas reserves had to be used up across Europe, increasing current demand.
I believe gas and electric prices are linked in terms of the cap so if one goes up the other can go up too even if there is no real needchubsta2022-08-27 03:29:28
I believe gas and electric prices are linked in terms of the cap so if one goes up the other can go up too even if there is no real needchubsta2022-08-27 03:29:28
neo-geo-mvs said:
What happened is I registered 9 years ago, didn't really have time or space for this hobby, then recently found time & space for this hobby so decided to use this account. That ok with you chief? would you like any documentation/references?
Also, my active status doesn't change the fact the post I was replying to was a wacko conspiracy theory, either.
Strangely enough I clicked on this thread expecting to see info about the rising costs running costs of arcade machines, not tedious political ramblings. I now see that was completely wrong of me & I won't post here again. Sorry boss.
Retroman839
Senior Member
tin said:
Thanks for clearing That up. we burn gas to heat the water to turn the turbines
So we need more nuclear.
I thought we had gas in the North Sea?
Are cabs viable in this energy crisis
They are ok because they generate heat & light
And they make us happy. Whilst not using much power.
chubsta said:
The price cap rates is based on the wholesale cost for previous months up to the announcement of the new rate so they are not linked to each other as part of the price cap, only through as mentioned that about 40% of our electric is made through burning gas.
That is why in the new price cap gas has gone up more than electric per KWh.
big10p said:
Yeah. For example I know a fella who sells tropical fish. His shop has somewhere between 100 and 200 aquariums, running day and night. A few months ago he was saying how his monthly electricity costs went from well under £1k to £2.5k. Now that'll be doubling. The burden of that each month! And custom is down because people are becoming too energy conscious to keep tropical fish.
Businesses are so f**ked. I just can't imagine how many are at all viable. Cost for an arcade is grim but at least it only needs turning on when open, for maybe 8 hours a day.
Phils Arcade
Senior Member
RaveN said:
T.V.s are a bit of a nightmare these days. The older ones are far more efficient than new ones. My mums flat panel draws only 48 watts, nothing fancy. My latest draws 147watts, mainly due to the fact that it houses basically a mini PC inside doing a ton of upscaling, filtering, decoding, browser, runs Android, has Netflix, Apple T.V., Strata, etc...
I'm experimenting with a 17" LCD panel and circuit at the minute that draws less than 20 watts of power. It's a 640 x 480 screen. Again, nothing fancy, just a screen and display chip connected via breadboard and PCB.
John Bennett
Senior Member
gengle said:Strangely enough I clicked on this thread expecting to see info about the rising costs running costs of arcade machines, not tedious political ramblings. I now see that was completely wrong of me & I won't post here again. Sorry boss.
You can stay. I like you and I've decided I can over-rule him.
On the subject of running arcades , the heat at Arcade Club Bury was immense last night. A room full of 29" candy cabs gives off so much heat you need fans and aircon to cope. I'd be surprised if any heating was needed in winter during the daytime. It's the sheer number of machines (It was brilliant night though, I must mention
If it's not sustainable, I dunno what you do that hasn't got drawbacks. When you've got hundreds of machines on, overall game utilisation must be pretty low so you could stagger the machines powered-up each day, or drop opening hours, but neither is ideal.
Maybe it is just me but there seems to be a lot fewer transactions going on in general. I know I have moved away from this site a lot in the last year. But when I do come on the sales threads are a lot lot less. Things seem to be grinding to a halt in general. People sticking with what they have maybe. But also people thinking twice about opening these arcades.
Monstermug
Active member
tin said:
Consipiracy theory maybe but i think the government has inadvertible caused inflation by injecting too much money into the ecomony recently. Rather than building millennium domes and wheels which doesnt turn directly into real dispoable income, they put it straight into the pockets of consumers.
Now rather than collect it back directly through taxation they just collect it via utility companies instead. Perfect way to maintain popularity and divert thr blame imo. Bsc in econonics not that its done me much good
Retroman839
Senior Member
We are all told to go electric and we are burning gas to make electric ?
Don’t they use gas in cars in usa ?
Like when we told that diesels where good for us
Don’t they use gas in cars in usa ?
Like when we told that diesels where good for us
pooman2084
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Gas…oline!