Atari Asteroids board fault

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Hi all,

I've got an Asteroids board that worked properly for a few hours since i've owned it before crapping out on me...

The board is constantly resetting, with some sort of pulsing running through the audio & vector system.

If I flip the game between play & test mode quickly i can usually
see the attract screen for a brief period before it starts off
resetting.

See below of a video of the screen when running in test mode, the audio
& pulsing of the vectors are in time with each other. When the game
is in Normal mode you get a similar pattern to test mode, but it move up
and off the screen after a few seconds and it looks like you're looking
at a blank screen.

Monitor output


Logic probe showing CPU reset


Following some tidbits of info from the forums and web if I isolate the
DMAG0 signal from the 74LS42 @L6 the game will play blind (even though
the audio sounded a bit quiet) and the reseting stops on the CPU.

This puts the fault in the Vector state machine are i believe.

If I remove the Prom @C8 the pulsing still shows up, but if i take out
either of the LS08 @E6 or B8 it disappears. They were already in sockets
along with quite a few other IC's this board, its had a tough life!

Any pointers about where look or what i can try would be apprecieated, I've been round in
circles this afternoon trying to find where this pulsing is coming from
but can't seem to find it .. yet :)

Many thanks, Mart.
 

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The pulsing is from the watchdog circuit resetting the board because it's crashed. It's not the actual problem. As you quite correctly surmised something has died on the vector generator side of the game board. Not necessarily the state machine as such, there's a bunch of areas it could be.

Before you go any further make sure your vector ROM is known good and working both in and out of circuit. Doesn't look to me like it's the PROM at C8 so put that back in.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC08dhhQGcCzjvdqi7MH9GpA?feature=guide should link to the youtube page where the vids are direct,

No test tones are heard, only a constant high pitch shot beep from the speaker in time with the watchdog reset. As for the video you get the cross hatch pattern with the dip switch settings along with a few extra vectors pulsing in ti,e with the reset.
 

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Ever get any further with this? The board I'm working on is doing almost the exact same thing. I resolved a ram error and I'm presented with the machine attempting to draw the cross hatch test pattern and shaded lines but resetting.
I'm also getting a row of 0000000000000000s they run on further than they should i think.

Out of test mode it gets as far as displaying
"PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
Presumably it's trying to say "PUSH START" before the watchdog barks.
MarbleMad2012-10-19 01:51:09
 

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MarbleMad said:
Ever get any further with this?...

Hi only just seen your post,

I was one of the 74LS170's in either F4, H4 or J4. stopping it boot.

Mark from Retroclinic sorted it along with some audio problems too.

smart
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