Atari Video Pinball - PCB repair

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Time for another game to break, this time Video Pinball went faulty mid game all of a sudden there was no video image on the display, upon re-powering the game the was a high pitched ping from the speaker and nothing else visible on the display, all the play field LED's were also not illuminated.

First thing first was to check the game voltages, The un-reglulated 10Vdc was present at the edge connector, the LM323 regulator was still doing a fine job of providing 5Vdc to all the game logic. The 18Vdc required for sound was also still present. Time to get the logic probe out and find out what was going on...

I first checked the Reset line on the CPU, this was low, you would usually see it held high in working condition and pulsing high/low if the game was resetting or more commonly mentioned watchdogging.

Next up I needed to check the clock circuit and see if all the horizontal and vertical timing signals were present. If these aren't all correct and present the game wont even get as far as attempting to run.

The image below shows the Horizontal timing part of the circuit:



The main 12MHz clock signal was good and all the horizontal timing signals from the outputs of LS161's at N6, M5 and L5 were all correct and present. It was time to scroll down page 4-5 and look at the horizontal timing signals.

Image below showing that part of the circuit:



As I noted on my printed schematic, all of the vertical output signal were low, these should be seem to be pulsing on a logic probe, I noted that the *VRESET signal was low and incorrectly thought the LS161 at N5 would have been faulty. I removed this from the PCB and tested it and was proven wrong, it was OK. I should have studied the data sheet further, the way these LS161's are used in the circuit requires a state change on pin 9.

The circuit creates a loop where the output signal *VRESET from pin 6 of F4 is needed to make the vertical timings active which in turn are used via a PROM to generate the *VRESET signal... confusing or what!



The above image shows the signal flow of what I tried to explain. Moving on I manually forced the *VRESET signal high whilst monitoring the vertical outputs on my logic probe, it would get high outputs on the vertical clock signals and would then hear the game reset.

Next I decided to remove the LS175 from F4 and test it. I was running out of IC's which could be at fault! :eek:) This turned out to be fine which should have left me with the 'SYNC PROM' at H4 being the problem, I had no easy way to test this so I removed a similar PROM from my Fire Truck cab and fitted it to newly installed IC socket and boom the game was running again! I have sourced the correct PROM and one of my arcade buddies has programmed it, so once I collect it i will be able to consider the game fully working again.

For future reference if anyone finds this post while looking for Video Pinball or Fire Truck repair logs, the SYNC PROM in my Video Pinball cab is labelled 9402-01 and the SYNC PROM in Fire Truck is labelled 9114-01. Using these files from MAME they contain exactly the same data and should be fully interchangeable between these two game and possibly any others of the era that use the a PROM to generate the Sync timings.



Thanks for reading, Mart.
 

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Hello everyone, and sorry for diggin' out such an old post...

I'm from Italy, I own a bootleg of Atari "Video Pinball" called "Rugby", made by Sidam in 1979.
Apart for some differences in the cabinet's graphics, the software it's a copy of the Atari original one.By the way, the game could as well run an original Atari pcb, or an emulator, it would be exactly the same.
And that's what I'd like to ask - obviously, there should be the necessity to drive the internal led panel, not only to have the tv signal.There's some way to have an emulator running, driving that led board as well?
Just wondering, as I have two or three different Sidam boards, all of them faulty. We have a little Museum of mainly italian games, we'd like to have the "Rugby" available for free play, but we don't manage to maintain a pcb working for long...

I include some images of the "Rugby" from Sidam.

Thanks!

rugby-tilt.jpgrugby-tilt_flyer.jpg
 

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Great to see a variant of the game. Shame you are thinking about emulation, can you get one of the switch mode regulators to help reduce heat on the PCB, add a fan, put new sockets on cpu and p/roms and go from there, logic wise they're not too difficult to repair.
 

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Agree with Martin it would be a shame to switch to emulation if you have the original cab and boards.

But the original Atari video pinball is emulated in mame and it has the triggers programmed in to light the LEDs to emulate them on screen so it should be possible somehow to get these outputs matched to something like a PACled for LEDwiz to trigger the actual LEDs in the game.
 

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Actually, main trouble is we have two cabinets, and only one board.
Sidam boards are not uncommon on eBay, especially in Italy, but I've been looking for another "Rugby" pcb with no luck since 2011.
Also, software is the same, but the board it's completely different from an Atari original...
 
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