Can we have seperate regions for the sale threads?

[El Capitan]

I'm not sure what would be the best way... but I'd agree this site would be better without resellers.

It's not too extreme right now, but imaging if we ended up with 50 resellers (from anywhere uk, Europe, rest of world) spamming the trade sections.

It feels like they are just trying to prey on the members here.

I should say this would not apply to good companies for example mo at videotronicsuk who always seems to have stuff the collectors here would like at decent prices.

 

[neo-geo-mvs]

It feels like they are just trying to prey on the members here.

Nail on the head

Fortunately not too many sellers

 

[jonhughes]

Nobody likes to pay too much for anything.

However, it is better to have the choice to ignore something or to buy something than have that choice driven away. Where will this stop, once the Euro sellers are driven out, who'll be next in the firing line?

 

[Shinydaz]

Maybe we could have a country flag on our profile next to the avatar.

 

[thegreathopper]

Maybe we could have a country flag on our profile next to the avatar.

I think it may already be there.

 

[_Matt_]

I'm not completely against resellers who are here for the sole purpose of making money by selling over priced stuff, as a lot of members do prefer to have that choice, and I completely appreciate that.
However I do not think the same forum rules should apply to some members with regards not discussing their prices in their sales posts. The emphasis should be on protecting and advising the community as a whole who may unwittingly buy grossly overpriced items, rather than protecting one or two sellers who are here only to make loads of money and never contribute in any other way.

For example, let's say I wanted to get into mvs carts and I thought to myself, hmm, I used to love that game in the 90's, I want to buy it before someone else snaps it up and this seller is always selling games on here so he must sell at fair prices because nobody ever complains about him or says his stuff is overpriced. So I pay £150 then I find out that I could of bought it elsewhere for £85 and the rest of the forum knew. I know some will say that would be my fault and I should have done my research, and that is one point of view, but I feel being part of a community like this means helping the majority is much more important than helping out a few sellers make ££££s.

In short, while I do agree it is rude to criticise people's prices in sales threads, and we shouldn't do it, I believe to some people that rule should not apply so maybe we need to be a bit less rigid in our way of thinking at times and actually help new members and less well informed members on current prices as if I was a new member and payed well over the odds I'd be a bit pissed off when I found out everyone knew he sells way overpriced stuff but there's no mention of it on the forum.

 

[kevkevkev]

Yeah fair point. I know its only a few but i get excited for a second then click and see pablo escobar wants €30 plus €15 shipping for super side kicks. Yeah a new collector may assume ebay is the fair price and just pay the high price. Sure if you want it bad enough you pay it. But yknow it sucks. Cause we need new fans to create a good community. The more there are the more they will buy and sell also.

I'm not completely against resellers who are here for the sole purpose of making money by selling over priced stuff, as a lot of members do prefer to have that choice, and I completely appreciate that.
However I do not think the same forum rules should apply to some members with regards not discussing their prices in their sales posts. The emphasis should be on protecting and advising the community as a whole who may unwittingly buy grossly overpriced items, rather than protecting one or two sellers who are here only to make loads of money and never contribute in any other way.

For example, let's say I wanted to get into mvs carts and I thought to myself, hmm, I used to love that game in the 90's, I want to buy it before someone else snaps it up and this seller is always selling games on here so he must sell at fair prices because nobody ever complains about him or says his stuff is overpriced. So I pay £150 then I find out that I could of bought it elsewhere for £85 and the rest of the forum knew. I know some will say that would be my fault and I should have done my research, and that is one point of view, but I feel being part of a community like this means helping the majority is much more important than helping out a few sellers make ££££s.

In short, while I do agree it is rude to criticise people's prices in sales threads, and we shouldn't do it, I believe to some people that rule should not apply so maybe we need to be a bit less rigid in our way of thinking at times and actually help new members and less well informed members on current prices as if I was a new member and payed well over the odds I'd be a bit pissed off when I found out everyone knew he sells way overpriced stuff but there's no mention of it on the forum.

 

[Layer]

I think more importantly is to have separate sections for...

ARCADE bits and bobs (guns / pedals / i/o)

Arcade Monitor related

Arcade PCB's

Arcade cabinets

I know some sellers maybe clearing some of each, but then they could cross link easily.

The effort for some sellers would be a lot less effort and more logical for the users.

Regarding location -

could implement a rule to prefix location in title

[UK] PCBS for sale

[FR] MVS for sale

Implementing a prefix location is indeed a good idea, you can quickly notice sale downsides, potential extra costs or fees.

About sale subsections, if they are not often used, they could be useless, and they don't allow to see all the sales at the same time, so it could be annoying like arcadeotaku.

Layer2020-05-11 06:39:21

 

[jonhughes]

Let's flip that on it's head for a moment.

Unfortunately, when new members arrive and advertise items at prices way under the asking price I don't see the community helping them when they make pricing mistakes in the opposite direction (the behaviour is like a feeding frenzy at the zoo). New sellers are driven away from the forum and these people could have access to great items (a little kind negotiation would have gone a long way and could have opened up new avenues).

It's whatever suits the agenda to some.

 

[phillv85]

We do have a valuations section that could alleviate that, but sometimes creates a bigger feeding frenzy than the for sale section.

I think the real issue people have here is one particular seller who has 2 or 3 accounts on here. I'd feel terrible for a lot of the Euro sellers who sell at great prices if we ditched them in the overpriced crap area of the sales section.

JAMMA+ did it well with the trader tags, so you knew you were dealing with someone in the business rather than another collector.

 

[jonhughes]

Once you start categorizing or tagging people into a certain group you're on a slippery slope.

Don't get me wrong, I know full well who you're talking about and I'm really not a fan of theirs (and was totally ignored once last in contact with one said seller) but I disagree with implementing anything that invokes any kind of discrimination - once that ball is rolling it's hard to stop.

 

[TheDaddy]

TheDaddy2020-05-11 09:58:34

 

[thegreathopper]

What about guys like Mo at Videotronics, Giz10p etc, bought some of my best stuff from them, they have been around forever and essential for certain parts.

Sorry this post doesn't make much sense now!




It was a follow on from the deleted post above mine that suggested only hobbyists should be able to sell on this forum.
thegreathopper2020-05-11 11:10:03

 

[TheDaddy]

TheDaddy2020-05-11 09:58:43

 

[qjuk]

There are some business resellers who do actually contribute and help members (usually with technical advice). There’s one seller who I’m currently dealing with who has been an absolute godsend, he has many contacts and has helped me get the parts I need. He’s previously notified me of auctions he’s spotted for things I’m on the hunt for and he also allows me to use his shipping address to get parts I’ve purchased from other people. He will send it all in one parcel to help me save money. I know what I want to pay for each item so I never feel I’m being ripped off.

 

[Ace`]

Lots of disponible laughs in this thread, how exactly are you going to determine who earns a living out of it and who is just selling their old crap. What if one reseller sells under market value? are they allowed but the ones you deem too expensive aren't?

Over priced stuff and greed isn't limited to resellers either is it Daddy-o.

This always comes down to 'I don't like current prices', I don't like them either I used to be able to pick up boards from the states quite often for a good price but those days are gone.

Banning resellers and only having collectors sell to each other and 'mates rates' doesn't work either as that mate ends up selling it a week later on ebay for 3x the price they paid.

 

[TheDaddy]

Here we go - I give my opinion and others then start to gets personal " Over priced stuff and greed isn't limited to resellers either is it Daddy-o. " Cant be bothered with this at all its clear my opinion is not wanted.

TheDaddy2020-05-11 10:02:07

 

[Ace`]

That's right one person disagrees with your opinion so that means delete all your messages and take your ball home. No, I was giving my opinion like you gave yours maybe everyone else agrees with you. I guess we won't know now.

To get back on track I still think separating people based on where they are from or if they collect / resell is ridiculous and that as already said forcing people to fill out the location is all that is really needed.

 

[TheDaddy]

Not the first time Ace though is it ?? I make a comment and everyone has a go, Anyway its not an issue - My last comment on this.

Dave.

TheDaddy2020-05-11 10:21:49

 

[Ace`]

I don't see it as everyone having a go, just disagreeing and if everyone agreed they'd be no thread.

Take comfort in the fact nothing will change, the https things still haven't happened so forced locations or new sections are going to be pretty far down the list.