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Hi

I've just taken delivery of a Pandorax box and some nice arcade buttons. Will try to plug this in tonight (to my Jamma cab). Hopefully you can't plug em in the wrong way!

With replacing existing buttons - I've no idea!
Is there a 'idiots' guide to repairing/doing up cabs anywhere online - or should I just look at other restorations and go from there?
I'm completely new to hobby so have zero clue about how to do anything!
 

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It IS possible to plug them in the wrong way around if either the PCB or your Jamma harness aren’t keyed. You can damage your board if you do this so take care!

Buttons are usually held on with a hex nut. You can find a specialist tool or just use a spanner or socket to loosen and tighten them. Take note where the wires are connected to the button switch when replacing them. You won’t cause damage if these are the wrong way round but they might not work.
 

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Yep possible to plug boards in the wrong way.
Your cab jamma connector should have the words top or parts side written on it. If it hasn't familiarize yourself with the jamma pinout and work out which wires are which and then when you've worked it out write top on your connector. No more worrying about plugging boards in backwards and you'll have learnt the jamma pinout for the future.
Also make sure the jamma connector is aligned properly with the jamma edge on the board as there are plenty of broken connectors out there that don't align.
Plenty of videos out there on control panels and buttons. What type of cab is it?
Good luck
 

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All seems okay. But screen & controls are upside down 😂😂
 

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Take it back! or
Rotate option. Pretty sure it's on that menu you have up on your screen. Any PC / LCD Monitor can do it
Sorted it. Simply spent evening with a Petzl torch on my head pulling cab apart. Learnt quite a bit. Rotated monitor and set up Pandoras box.
The emulation is horrible🙈. But it’ll do for now. Want to attack buttons & joysticks next.
 

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As you progress in the hobby the things to realise is NOT ALL 28 way pcbs are JAMMA . These can usually be identified by the edge key cut out at pin 7 and the loom if it has no ‘idiot key’ which prevents wrong way round connection, has the thicker power wires GND & 5v paired up at pins 1//2. 3//4 which correspond to the double pass on the board at the keyed end of the connector

The BIG error some people new to the hobby don’t realise some 28 way edge connect boards are eg SEGA or CAPCOM and few other are not jamma so power and functions do not align and can damage the board… adapters to jamma are available should you ever require them and as said above - ask on this forum for advice .

Almost all Jamma compatible boards will have jamma printed on them close to the edge connector but always look closely at the edge pad layout to make sure..


A lot of other dedicated game pcbs have different number of pin edge connect or different connector all together to bear in mind if you look to buy specific games.
If you look up a game on KLOV. com it will often state conversion class as Jamma std or unique etc to guide users in some cases.


Your jamma loom also appears to only support 2 fire/jump/ bomb buttons per player? Fine for most older games and many multi game systems but STREET FIGHTER style pcbs require 6 buttons and a loom adapter can be obtained which allows 4 5 or 6 extra buttons usually attaches to a seperate pin position on the pcb

My advice is if you go on to collecting pcbs to interchange is consider a second cabinet wired to 6 buttons and jamma and perhaps a crt monitor too to save some complication ? and be happy to play the multi cab you have just for the selection you can now access .. good luck as you go!

Finally some multi game systems use simulated older games where players alternate so a single joystick and buttons only is required and while they do work fine on all double player cabs the player two controls are often redundant except for the start p2 button ….
 
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As you progress in the hobby the things to realise is NOT ALL 28 way pcbs are JAMMA . These can usually be identified by the edge key cut out at pin 7 and the loom if it has no ‘idiot key’ which prevents wrong way round connection, has the thicker power wires GND & 5v paired up at pins 1//2. 3//4 which correspond to the double pass on the board at the keyed end of the connector

The BIG error some people new to the hobby don’t realise some 28 way edge connect boards are eg SEGA or CAPCOM and few other are not jamma so power and functions do not align and can damage the board… adapters to jamma are available should you ever require them and as said above - ask on this forum for advice .

Almost all Jamma compatible boards will have jamma printed on them close to the edge connector but always look closely at the edge pad layout to make sure..


A lot of other dedicated game pcbs have different number of pin edge connect or different connector all together to bear in mind if you look to buy specific games.
If you look up a game on KLOV. com it will often state convention class as Jamma std or unique etc to guide users in some cases.


Your jamma loom also appears to only support 2 fire/jump/ bomb buttons per player? Fine for most older games and many multi game systems but STREET FIGHTER style pcbs require 6 buttons and a loom adapter can be obtained which allows 4 5 or 6 extra buttons usually attaches to a seperate pin position on the pcb

My advice is if you go on to collecting pcbs to interchange is consider a second cabinet wired to 6 buttons and jamma and perhaps a crt monitor too to save some complication ? and be happy to play the multi cab you have just for the selection you can now access .. good luck as you go!
Thanks for that advice very useful. You mention a look adapter to get more buttons going - would I be better just buying a new loom ?
 

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Thanks for that advice very useful. You mention a look adapter to get more buttons going - would I be better just buying a new loom ?

Reply most jamma looms when bought only adapt to a cab using crt signal inputs and not vga as on many digital flat screens


Not really necessary unless you need 6 buttons on that system . I am not familiar with the Pandora and your panel only has 5 buttons at present as far as I can see . Best to see how the hobby progresses as rush ahead making work for yourself ?
 
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A good example of an odd popular game that fits the above explanation would be SHINOBI its Sega system 16 pin out connection NOT jamma tho I have seen a ‘bootleg’ version that does go direct to a jamma loom !! and ideally needs 3 buttons (more than 2 but not 6 ) where many games do only need 2 buttons
 
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