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Ok...

I have a twin sitdown cabinet built from scraps of two different cabs.

I have been using two ps2 consoles with great success but when I have people over I have to spend most of the evening running through linking games and what sections they need etc as they are not arcade based games.

Sooooo...

I have been looking at the great work for emulators etc and would love to have sega rally, daytona, scud etc etc and pretty much any other sega based driving arcade games.

My steering and pedals etc are taken care of via hacked Logitec driving force (non ex).

I have never tried anything like mame before or run any emulators. I have little/no computer background.

I dont want to spend thousands on this project and I am keen to hear from anyone who can help?

It would be great to have 1 computer running both screens and wheels etc.

Please can someone help to list what I will need and some rough guidance of helping me get started?

I am hoping to get to a meet later in the year. I will be bringing beer tokens for helpers
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The model 2 emulator is what your after, you need the emulator and the roms and its fairly simple to setup and has daytona, sega rally etc.

The other one is Supermodel which emulates the model 3 games, daytona 2 and scud race.

I know you can network on the model 2 emulator but not sure its possible on supermodel yet.

I'd say your looking at a quad core or i5/i7 pc, at least 4 gig ram, a fairly decent graphics card that can output soft 15khz, or the latest arcade vga might be able to hack it. Then an apac to interface the driving controls with the pc, and probably a jpac/ipac to interface all the buttons.

Your looking at a fair amount of configuration and it can be tricky if you dont have much experience with pc's. I've built a driver from scratch, and also helped a few people with their driving setups so it is very possible. but adopt a "rome wasnt built in a day" mentality!

With a pc and mame setup via apac it opens up all the 270 degree based arcade racing games that are currently emulated, (think outrun, chase hq etc) but bear in mind that only the model 2, possibly the model 3 and perhaps 1 or two mame games like outrunners, will be 2 player playable with independent controls, so your looking at a fair amount of cash to be able to play not that many games, saying that, you could argue that 2 player daytona and sega rally are easily worth that for the amount of fun you get playing two player! :)

Also from my experience each mame game needs a fair amount of tweaking to feel right, its not a 1 setting fits all kind of thing.

Happy to help via the forums with any questions, but its something you will need to begin getting your head round if your gonna attempt it. Start googling model 2, supermodel emulator, apacs, jpacs, soft 15khz, mame driving cabs, and you'll soon get a feel for whats involved
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Thanks will take a look.

How much should I be looking to spend on the pc side of things? will I deff need two or will one be able to handle it? maybe a dual quad core?

Im such a newb
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Ok,

So ive looked into sm3 or 'supermodel'. Wow thats pretty swish! However Im not really feeling it as from what I can see there is no two cab link option?

Maybe have this on just one side untill there is a link option and have 2 on both sides.?

I am looking at the SM2 and the associated games. Roms?

I know there are only a few games but I still have the ps2's that I can use for others and maybe one day when I have learnt a bit more and have some more pennies I can expand on things.

I would Ideally like to do this with just one gaming pc rather than buying two and linking them but I am open to ideas and suggestions.

the steering wheel and buttons are pc compatible via a usb so will I still need the jpac/ipac? as the buttons are wired through the steering wheel circuit boards?

I am happy to tweek the steering etc and expect things to be a bit of a slog.

I am running two tvs so will need two vga outputs with vga to scart adapters?

I am struggling to find anything about the 'apac' you suggested I needed for the steering wheel. I have googled it.

I have found interesting videos on explaining what the jpac/ipac does and that side of things is pretty straight forward.

Im sure Ive just talked utter gibberish but hopefully some sense can be seen through my smog?

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Ok so done some more digging and have found a guy who has used logitec in the same way I have and has this working with his pc. No IPAC needed?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=105186.0

Is there anyone who lives in norfolk who would like some beer tokens for telephone and occasional visiting support while I learn about this stuff?

I would like to keep this in house as I feel the build would make a great thread and also help other members who have to start somewhere... just like me.
 
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strykr said:
I'd say your looking at a quad core or i5/i7 pc, at least 4 gig ram, a fairly decent graphics card that can output soft 15khz
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Fair chunk of overkill there, model 2 works fine with a core2 dual core and old DX9 ATI (I think it was an X1600 I had, about a tenner on Ebay) and does Soft 15k. The same PC but with a newer (but cheaper end) DX11 ATI card runs Model 3 just fine (2 gig ram win 7), most new cards don't work with soft15k but there is another option (since you say you are going to use TVs anyway) and that's one of the VGA to S-vid convertors you can find on Ebay for 10/15 quid, not a perfect pic but still as good as ya average arcade tube (better than the one I've just picked up in a cab) and to fine tune you just find the hidden service menu for ya TV.

Frontend wise you will want to go with Hyperspin (more about that later when you get there but with good reason).
 
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Deathrow said:
Ok so done some more digging and have found a guy who has used logitec in the same way I have and has this working with his pc. No IPAC needed?
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Nope i-pac not needed & yes Logitech work, don't use the EX model though (analogue buttons) and some of the later ones (optical not pots), the nice thing about logitech is the sotware for em that you can assign per emunamehere.exe, you can do it with an elcheapo xbox wheel picked up from a car boot for about a fiver most of the time (they are USB ultimately and you just need some drivers off the net).
 
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Thanks very very much for your help here.

I will start looking for a pc.

Do you think one will run both sides or will I need two?
 
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A decent spec PC can run two instances of the Model 2 emu and link up that way too I think, tbh there's only really that emulator that does network (mame will but they are all one screen games really) if you want link up fun I would prob go 2 PCs and get some native PC games networked too.
 
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