Not to derail a thread as asking for advice on buying a car but questions of Reliability is a whole different topic and I'm not being Anti EV just would like to know where the money goes on your cars, wether it's ICE, Hybrid or EV
Modern cars in General are money pits and less reliable than older cars from 1990s/mid 2000s depending on what cars you buy possibly
Yes your always going to have owners of cars that had zero problems and I'll always tell people my Dad has had fords for nearly every car apart from 2 and he's never had anything major go wrong, were talking leaking shock on Sapphire Sierra on first MOT, Sensor error on Mk1 Focus but was down to it being caught I think when he was working on it, lead came off he hadn't noticed and they kept cars for years, currently has Ecoboost STline Focus I think but i don't really take much notice but it doesn't do many miles now, he used to have Cortina's when he was engineer and would drive around for job all the time, down London etc so he's done a lot of driving in them all till the 1989 Sierra
But for every case of cars are reliable there are many people with cars that are total nightmares, Garages can't repair them because there so complicated now, Main dealers can't repair them and even mid Ford Focus when I was looking for cars 12/13 years ago, there were mid 2000 ones on ebay with electronic issues by the dozens for no money, now you have even more electric/electronics issues, added to that Hybrid Batteries, mega expensive light clusters they are just a owners nightmare in many cases
So the main argument is EV is more reliable as it's got less moving parts, Okay.. but if you buy an over engineered (German) over Complicated (Most) modern cars yeah you probably will have sensors failing and Ignition packs, I'll be round local garage for my MOT and you have cars in with gearbox issues, timing chains knackered, fuel injectors faulty etc etc
If you buy something renowned for Reliability like Japanese cars often at the top of ratings and like I say many in other makes too how much money is spent on the Engine, My dad never spend hardly anything on Engines as they were all ultra reliable.
I've been running 2 Old cars now 31 years old, 25 years old and were used commuting to work 3 days a week 80 mile round trip and how much have I spent on Engine, just Oil/Filter change, Plugs, Rotor Arm, Dizzy cap. I had to resolder fuel pump relay only issue in 11 years, replaced clutch which wasn't worn out yet at 98k it was me that damaged that but I was taking gearbox off to change 5th gear and cost me £150 for nearly new genuine clutch kit
Other car, 92k when I bought it, engine I put in was same mileage, replaced Timing belt before fitting, clutch the donor engine was about had it but clutch on the car it's going in was less than 3rd worn so should see 250-300k, engine issues since over 43k er pipe came off so pushed back on, oil, filters, plugs, rotor arm, dizzy cap. thats it on engine and seems A/C pump has just seized up after 25 years, it's not had any services on AC so probably why but not that bothered as if we get sun i'm in convertible anyway
So where has the money been spent on mine, well it's Tyres, Brake Pads, Discs which is because all cars I've bought the brakes were in crap condition, broken front spring, all rear suspension bushes, 30 years old one still on originals, rear ABS sensor on both one only had issue after i unplugged it, don't think sensor had failed could be connection or wiring, this is after 20 odd years and other senor open circuit at 30 years and not cable so replaced. Bulbs, Windscreen Wipers, drive shaft CV Boots, Anti Roll Drop Links, some welding, derusting.
So basically 90% of the money gone on all the items an EV STILL has and as EV's aren't 25 years old how many have had suspension, brake components changed already?
I regular drive places on Motorway and pass cars that are 10-28 years newer than mine and laugh at the amount broken down while mine just keep going
So where has the money been spent on all your cars, Engine or everything else EV still has?
Modern cars in General are money pits and less reliable than older cars from 1990s/mid 2000s depending on what cars you buy possibly
Yes your always going to have owners of cars that had zero problems and I'll always tell people my Dad has had fords for nearly every car apart from 2 and he's never had anything major go wrong, were talking leaking shock on Sapphire Sierra on first MOT, Sensor error on Mk1 Focus but was down to it being caught I think when he was working on it, lead came off he hadn't noticed and they kept cars for years, currently has Ecoboost STline Focus I think but i don't really take much notice but it doesn't do many miles now, he used to have Cortina's when he was engineer and would drive around for job all the time, down London etc so he's done a lot of driving in them all till the 1989 Sierra
But for every case of cars are reliable there are many people with cars that are total nightmares, Garages can't repair them because there so complicated now, Main dealers can't repair them and even mid Ford Focus when I was looking for cars 12/13 years ago, there were mid 2000 ones on ebay with electronic issues by the dozens for no money, now you have even more electric/electronics issues, added to that Hybrid Batteries, mega expensive light clusters they are just a owners nightmare in many cases
So the main argument is EV is more reliable as it's got less moving parts, Okay.. but if you buy an over engineered (German) over Complicated (Most) modern cars yeah you probably will have sensors failing and Ignition packs, I'll be round local garage for my MOT and you have cars in with gearbox issues, timing chains knackered, fuel injectors faulty etc etc
If you buy something renowned for Reliability like Japanese cars often at the top of ratings and like I say many in other makes too how much money is spent on the Engine, My dad never spend hardly anything on Engines as they were all ultra reliable.
I've been running 2 Old cars now 31 years old, 25 years old and were used commuting to work 3 days a week 80 mile round trip and how much have I spent on Engine, just Oil/Filter change, Plugs, Rotor Arm, Dizzy cap. I had to resolder fuel pump relay only issue in 11 years, replaced clutch which wasn't worn out yet at 98k it was me that damaged that but I was taking gearbox off to change 5th gear and cost me £150 for nearly new genuine clutch kit
Other car, 92k when I bought it, engine I put in was same mileage, replaced Timing belt before fitting, clutch the donor engine was about had it but clutch on the car it's going in was less than 3rd worn so should see 250-300k, engine issues since over 43k er pipe came off so pushed back on, oil, filters, plugs, rotor arm, dizzy cap. thats it on engine and seems A/C pump has just seized up after 25 years, it's not had any services on AC so probably why but not that bothered as if we get sun i'm in convertible anyway
So where has the money been spent on mine, well it's Tyres, Brake Pads, Discs which is because all cars I've bought the brakes were in crap condition, broken front spring, all rear suspension bushes, 30 years old one still on originals, rear ABS sensor on both one only had issue after i unplugged it, don't think sensor had failed could be connection or wiring, this is after 20 odd years and other senor open circuit at 30 years and not cable so replaced. Bulbs, Windscreen Wipers, drive shaft CV Boots, Anti Roll Drop Links, some welding, derusting.
So basically 90% of the money gone on all the items an EV STILL has and as EV's aren't 25 years old how many have had suspension, brake components changed already?
I regular drive places on Motorway and pass cars that are 10-28 years newer than mine and laugh at the amount broken down while mine just keep going
So where has the money been spent on all your cars, Engine or everything else EV still has?
I know what you saying but if I was going to spend loads on a car it would be early Honda NSX or Ferrari 355 those sort of cars and have something that's really fuel efficient for commuting, If I had done that you then have a car you've paid £15/30k for thats now worth 60/100k but no garage no point. I can't be bothered to work my arse off to be paying out massive money on depreciating assets but I respect it's everyone's choice and for others happy to do that it's all good
