Interest check - Out Run Music Extender
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Late to the party, nice to see you post Ade 
I think these are irrelevant now but here's a couple of photos from the PCB.
I will PM a link to the files to those who have shown interest in this thread recently.
Cheers, Mart.
smarty2019-09-19 12:57:36
I think these are irrelevant now but here's a couple of photos from the PCB.
I will PM a link to the files to those who have shown interest in this thread recently.
Cheers, Mart.
smarty2019-09-19 12:57:36
These are the 'hands' that you're looking for.
JPG's exported by the Switch are heavily compressed, so they're certainly not ideal to try to recreate original sprites from. You also have to deal with the scaling factor (Switch appears to use 852x596 (aspect ratio 1.4295) for the frame when playing in 'Arcade' mode, which doesn't scale (2.66x) particularly well to Out Run's 320x224 frame), although the aspect ratio is pretty much bang on (1.4285). Strange why they didn't choose 960x672 to give a 3x scale.
It would probably be better to grab screen shots from the 3DS version of the game running in the Citra emulator as, I believe, it can export uncompressed (i.e. lossless) PNGs at the original frame buffer size of 400x240 of the top screen, the game has a 'pixel-perfect' mode so it'd be considerably easier to recreate the sprites using grabs from that game.
Then all you need to do is code up a tool to convert the image to OR sprite format and hack them into the game...... Easy!
Have fun!
JPG's exported by the Switch are heavily compressed, so they're certainly not ideal to try to recreate original sprites from. You also have to deal with the scaling factor (Switch appears to use 852x596 (aspect ratio 1.4295) for the frame when playing in 'Arcade' mode, which doesn't scale (2.66x) particularly well to Out Run's 320x224 frame), although the aspect ratio is pretty much bang on (1.4285). Strange why they didn't choose 960x672 to give a 3x scale.
It would probably be better to grab screen shots from the 3DS version of the game running in the Citra emulator as, I believe, it can export uncompressed (i.e. lossless) PNGs at the original frame buffer size of 400x240 of the top screen, the game has a 'pixel-perfect' mode so it'd be considerably easier to recreate the sprites using grabs from that game.
Then all you need to do is code up a tool to convert the image to OR sprite format and hack them into the game...... Easy!
Have fun!
So it turns out that OR isn't fully working yet in Citra and crashes when you attempt to start a game. Thank heavens for Rosalina. That can dump uncompressed BMPs of a running process on the 3DS. So here we have the uncompressed, native 320x224 screen grabs of the hand sprites in their new positions. You should be able to carve the sprites out of these grabs quite easily, converting them to OR format may be a little more difficult but the MAME source will help you there.
The Switch version of the game runs a 640x448 (2x) frame in arcade handheld mode (i'd been using it in docked mode earlier today) but the grabs are still too heavily compressed to be of any use.
There are only 2 new tunes in OR tune format in the Switch game, Step On Beat and Radiation. The other new tunes are not stored in OR tune format. For some strange reason Camino A Mi Amor is stored twice, identically, in the binary. There is a second, shorter, version of Step On Beat which is stored at $7a330e for $2907 (versus Step On Beat -arcade edition- which is $3890 long) but there doesn't appear to be any way to play that version via the front end game (it certainly isn't selectable in the music player nor does it form the credit music or menu music). There are obviously differences between the two versions of the tune, but my old ears can't tell what they are. I guess it's an Easter Egg tune. Maybe there's a secret button combo to unlock it somehow! Someone should tweet M2 and ask them.
I've hooked the new tunes up to MAME and although they try to emulate the past they're never going to be able to hold a candle to the original 3.
https://www.ukvac.com/forum/data/uploads/1497/screen_grabs.zip
The Switch version of the game runs a 640x448 (2x) frame in arcade handheld mode (i'd been using it in docked mode earlier today) but the grabs are still too heavily compressed to be of any use.
There are only 2 new tunes in OR tune format in the Switch game, Step On Beat and Radiation. The other new tunes are not stored in OR tune format. For some strange reason Camino A Mi Amor is stored twice, identically, in the binary. There is a second, shorter, version of Step On Beat which is stored at $7a330e for $2907 (versus Step On Beat -arcade edition- which is $3890 long) but there doesn't appear to be any way to play that version via the front end game (it certainly isn't selectable in the music player nor does it form the credit music or menu music). There are obviously differences between the two versions of the tune, but my old ears can't tell what they are. I guess it's an Easter Egg tune. Maybe there's a secret button combo to unlock it somehow! Someone should tweet M2 and ask them.
I've hooked the new tunes up to MAME and although they try to emulate the past they're never going to be able to hold a candle to the original 3.
https://www.ukvac.com/forum/data/uploads/1497/screen_grabs.zip
cmonkey said:
If you guys need any 1:1 pixel work doing just shout. I should be able to extract palette data from MAME to match colours.
As said above I'm not sure how to re-inject the pixel data back into place from say a .png / .gif or whatever but something hand pixelled may suit your purposes better than trying to rework 320x240 res from JPEG compressed screenshots.
moomootown
Monkeyballer
I’m sure you know this Chris; but just in case not - Step on Beat was originally an extra music track in the Megadrive version of the game. Think Radiation might have been in the home versions of OR2
moomootown
Monkeyballer
cmonkey said:moomootown said:
I didn't know that. I was a SNES person so had never played the Megadrive version of OR, until just now. Thanks for the info.
It also has a couple of Easter eggs - if you make it to the 2nd checkpoint without hitting anything either the afterburner plane or the galaxy force space ship (depending on route choice) fly overhead toomoomootown2019-09-22 19:34:29
