[ukvac] JT..
hi all..
While Andy Jones' mail was informative and eye-opening, I still feel that JT
can't be allowed to hide behind being 'naive at first'... Andy raises some
good points, i agree, if you've had no problems with him then fair enough,
give him a try, but i advise you to heed the warnings of others who have
dealt with him. He didn't get a bad reputation overnight just because his
prices are relatively high, it is the result of a catalogue of bad deals.
'You get what you pay for'. I think JT's past is catching up on him.
As James Watt says, anyone who is in business and sells something described
as one thing and it ends up as being something else, and more importantly
even broken in some cases, is breaking the trade laws if he refuses to
refund or exchange. I know this is the case in at least 3 deals.
Still, the way i solve this problem is to avoid dealing with him. But I
agree that he is making it harder for us as collectors to find those seaside
bargains, but hey that's life, and that's what has happened in many other
areas of collectables as Andy Jones has already stated. It is inevitable,
yes it is horrible when that day comes and we can whine about it all we
like. But like so many other areas, there are highs an lows in the market,
it's buying at the right time that can still make it fun.
Look at the classic car market, in the 60's and 70's vintage cars were being
driven into the woods and abandoned, you could go get them for free. When
MOT's were introduced, thousands of cars from the 20's and 30's were put in
scrapyards, could be bought for pennies. Collecting/restoration started
seriously in the late 70's in the eighties the market boomed, and peaked
around 1989. When we hit the recession, the bottom fell out of the market,
some cars that sold for #100,000 the year previously were then fetching
around #25,000. Supply and demand. People started asking lots of money for
old wrecks, nobody was buying because of lack of affluency, and prices
plummeted. Nowadays, classic car prices are relative to prices in aroundd
1985, they are however steadily rising.
I think what we're witnessing is the emergence of Arcade collecting as just
another hobby into mainstream. Much as we hate to see it happen (Like my
father saw the car market in the late 70's / 80's) it no doubt will happen.
More people than ever are approaching me to buy machines for their homes,
and yes, they are surprised when i quote them prices much cheaper than
they've been led to believe. Relatively speaking i'm still making quite a
packet, and they think they're getting a good deal. I still try to keep my
prices relative to collector prices, i don't have any need to push harder..
I'm a collector myself and i will sell personal arcade items at prices which
please me, depending on how hard it will be to obtain another example..
a final thought:
Would any normal person off of the street, see a picture of a kettle in a
home shopping catalogue, decide they like it, send their money away, only
for it to arrive, not the make or model that they were expecting, not in the
condition they were expecting, and not even working. Is the catalogue
company allowed to turn around and say 'Sorry love, don't know that much
about kettles'... and refuse to help?
that's my point.
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hi all..
While Andy Jones' mail was informative and eye-opening, I still feel that JT
can't be allowed to hide behind being 'naive at first'... Andy raises some
good points, i agree, if you've had no problems with him then fair enough,
give him a try, but i advise you to heed the warnings of others who have
dealt with him. He didn't get a bad reputation overnight just because his
prices are relatively high, it is the result of a catalogue of bad deals.
'You get what you pay for'. I think JT's past is catching up on him.
As James Watt says, anyone who is in business and sells something described
as one thing and it ends up as being something else, and more importantly
even broken in some cases, is breaking the trade laws if he refuses to
refund or exchange. I know this is the case in at least 3 deals.
Still, the way i solve this problem is to avoid dealing with him. But I
agree that he is making it harder for us as collectors to find those seaside
bargains, but hey that's life, and that's what has happened in many other
areas of collectables as Andy Jones has already stated. It is inevitable,
yes it is horrible when that day comes and we can whine about it all we
like. But like so many other areas, there are highs an lows in the market,
it's buying at the right time that can still make it fun.
Look at the classic car market, in the 60's and 70's vintage cars were being
driven into the woods and abandoned, you could go get them for free. When
MOT's were introduced, thousands of cars from the 20's and 30's were put in
scrapyards, could be bought for pennies. Collecting/restoration started
seriously in the late 70's in the eighties the market boomed, and peaked
around 1989. When we hit the recession, the bottom fell out of the market,
some cars that sold for #100,000 the year previously were then fetching
around #25,000. Supply and demand. People started asking lots of money for
old wrecks, nobody was buying because of lack of affluency, and prices
plummeted. Nowadays, classic car prices are relative to prices in aroundd
1985, they are however steadily rising.
I think what we're witnessing is the emergence of Arcade collecting as just
another hobby into mainstream. Much as we hate to see it happen (Like my
father saw the car market in the late 70's / 80's) it no doubt will happen.
More people than ever are approaching me to buy machines for their homes,
and yes, they are surprised when i quote them prices much cheaper than
they've been led to believe. Relatively speaking i'm still making quite a
packet, and they think they're getting a good deal. I still try to keep my
prices relative to collector prices, i don't have any need to push harder..
I'm a collector myself and i will sell personal arcade items at prices which
please me, depending on how hard it will be to obtain another example..
a final thought:
Would any normal person off of the street, see a picture of a kettle in a
home shopping catalogue, decide they like it, send their money away, only
for it to arrive, not the make or model that they were expecting, not in the
condition they were expecting, and not even working. Is the catalogue
company allowed to turn around and say 'Sorry love, don't know that much
about kettles'... and refuse to help?
that's my point.
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toys, video games and more. See details inside on how to receive
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