Just back home from Gatwick.

[Retroman839]

Set off at 6:30 this morning to go to Spain .. and some bloke crashed Microsoft!
Great …. So we played stand like statues for 6 hours .. until we where eventually told .. go home your flight is cancelled.

So we went to the sea side !
I couldn’t find an arcade
But the sea was the warmest I have ever experienced in uk waters Not sure if that’s actually a good thing?

Since this morning we have had radio silence from out airline ..
not great when they are selling seats for today and tomorow ?
But not re-alicating them to people who’s flights where canceled this morning ?

Has the world gone mad . Or is it just me ?
One bad update crashes half the planets systems!?

 

[Georgian2]

I can't relate to any of this. I still use windows 7 and XP.

It's obvious how easy it is for one person to make a lot of global damage. Just like eating a bat, whats the worst that can happen.

 

[Vorbis]

My family were at Gatwick today. Flight was delayed by 20 minutes other than that no problems. Guess it depends on the airline

 

[Retroman839]

I can't relate to any of this. I still use windows 7 and XP.

It's obvious how easy it is for one person to make a lot of global damage. Just like eating a bat, whats the worst that can happen.

yeh BA. no issue they don’t use windows, Smaller air lines it seems all use a Microsoft platform called Azur.

 

[L_____E_____T]

Azure is the cloud computing system isn't it? Very popular.

 

[Vorbis]

yeh BA. no issue they don’t use windows, Smaller air lines it seems all use a Microsoft platform called Azur.

Yes, they were on BA. Seems their absolutely shit IT infrastructure was actually a benefit for a change

 

[Bods]

I can't relate to any of this. I still use windows 7 and XP.

It's obvious how easy it is for one person to make a lot of global damage. Just like eating a bat, whats the worst that can happen.

Ozzy Osbourne has a lot to answer for

Nothing that happens these day will surprise me in the slightest, just a day of a life of a conspiracy theorist I'd be more surprised if nothing happened

 

[Retroman839]

Yes, they were on BA. Seems their absolutely shit IT infrastructure was actually a benefit for a change

🤣🤣

 

[Akira99]

Set off at 6:30 this morning to go to Spain .. and some bloke crashed Microsoft!
Great …. So we played stand like statues for 6 hours .. until we where eventually told .. go home your flight is cancelled.

So we went to the sea side !
I couldn’t find an arcade
But the sea was the warmest I have ever experienced in uk waters Not sure if that’s actually a good thing?

Since this morning we have had radio silence from out airline ..
not great when they are selling seats for today and tomorow ?
But not re-alicating them to people who’s flights where canceled this morning ?

Has the world gone mad . Or is it just me ?
One bad update crashes half the planets systems!?

Sorry to hear about that mate I hope you get your money back and compensation as well.

 

[funk]

Dare say you will have seen @Retroman839, I wasn't on the front line of it thank god, but had to deal with telling clients their stuff would be alright for most of Friday.

Crowdstrike were at fault, ironically a sensor content/definition file update was deployed, that crashed windows hence Microsoft getting the blame.

From a security perspective I've been waiting for something like this to hit for years, it's caused chaos and upset for many, but looking on the bright side it looks to have been an "oops we've ****** it" moment, and not a targeting attack...

That said, it has also highlighted that most of the world's reliance on technology needs to be seen as a benefit and not a necessity in many scenarios it's applied in, self service checkouts anybody, don't get me started 😂

Edit - Also gutted about your situation too!

 

[Retroman839]

Sorry to hear about that mate I hope you get your money back and compensation as well.

Thing is .. they would compensate hotel meals etc..
but we just went home 🤨
Getting a Wednesday flight now
Not sure about day lost compo
But they just said hotel , meal & travel expenses up to €150 per ticket I think ?
Not sure if that’s daily for lost holiday days either .. it’s just a pain.
it was an expensive egg sandwich but it least it was a M & s egg sandwich.🤣

In reality
It prob has cost us about £1000
Day lost for me at work

Dare say you will have seen @Retroman839, I wasn't on the front line of it thank god, but had to deal with telling clients their stuff would be alright for most of Friday.

Crowdstrike were at fault, ironically a sensor content/definition file update was deployed, that crashed windows hence Microsoft getting the blame.

From a security perspective I've been waiting for something like this to hit for years, it's caused chaos and upset for many, but looking on the bright side it looks to have been an "oops we've ****** it" moment, and not a targeting attack...

That said, it has also highlighted that most of the world's reliance on technology needs to be seen as a benefit and not a necessity in many scenarios it's applied in, self service checkouts anybody, don't get me started 😂

Edit - Also gutted about your situation too!

yeh.. it was chaos
they actually told us luckily we would be ok. After 6 hour wait .. all that they needed to do was check us in manually ..
So they did with a pad,pen and paper,
So it’s all good we are going after all.
Every flight before ours was canceled
But we were the lucky ones ( so we thought! )
we was about 4 back from dropping our bags,
Then a senior guy comes up to the desk and apologies to us all again, 😅🤣. Tells us to go home. Get a hotel what ever! They’ll be No planes for us today!

You dont need cyber attack when you use windows, it attacks itself

 

[Shoryu-stu]

I can't relate to any of this. I still use windows 7 and XP.

It's obvious how easy it is for one person to make a lot of global damage. Just like eating a bat, whats the worst that can happen.

Windows xp is the BOSS!(remember,...my opinion counts....no one elses!lol).

 

[Spanky]

For the record, it was bugger all to do with Microsoft and/or Windows. Windows behaved exactly as per design.
Crowdstrike did the equivalent of taking a shit in someone's head.

 

[Retroman839]

For the record, it was bugger all to do with Microsoft and/or Windows. Windows behaved exactly as per design.
Crowdstrike did the equivalent of taking a shit in someone's head.

But shouldn’t Microsoft have a shit proof hat ?

 

[Spanky]

I didn't say shit on someone's head, I said shit in their head. Allow me to elucidate.

The instructions (or "code") that run on the processor(s) under Microsoft windows run in either of two modes, User Mode or Kernel Mode. These modes are supported at the chip level. User Mode code crucially can never access hardware directly, it doesn't have the privileges. Applications such as Word, Excel, whatever run in User Mode. If they want to, for example, save to disk, they do so by going handing the operation to the operating system.

Device drivers are software which provide an interface layer between the hardware and the operating system. Device drivers run in Kernel Mode, and as such have higher privileges and can talk directly to the hardware.

Device drivers are typically written by the device manufacturers, as they know their hardware best. Writing device drivers is quite difficult.
If a device driver screws up, the results can be severe.

We have all experienced a crash in User Mode. The application falls over, and the operating system throws up an error message. It's annoying, but the operating system can carry on.

When a crash happens in Kernel Mode, the operating system can no longer guarantee the integrity of your data, so it does the only thing it can. It dumps the entire contents of the memory to disk (using a Microsoft low level device driver), displays the bugcheck screen (Blue Screen of Death) and reboots.
Clownstrike's Falcon Sensor is a vulnerability scanner which detect and prevent threats. To do so it runs in Kernel Mode, which is unusual for an application.

Now think Star Trek for a moment. One minute you're sitting there, the next Crowdstrike use the transporter to teleport a turd into your brain. Not a lot you can do under those circumstances.

 

[Retroman839]

I didn't say shit on someone's head, I said shit in their head. Allow me to elucidate.

The instructions (or "code") that run on the processor(s) under Microsoft windows run in either of two modes, User Mode or Kernel Mode. These modes are supported at the chip level. User Mode code crucially can never access hardware directly, it doesn't have the privileges. Applications such as Word, Excel, whatever run in User Mode. If they want to, for example, save to disk, they do so by going handing the operation to the operating system.

Device drivers are software which provide an interface layer between the hardware and the operating system. Device drivers run in Kernel Mode, and as such have higher privileges and can talk directly to the hardware.

Device drivers are typically written by the device manufacturers, as they know their hardware best. Writing device drivers is quite difficult.
If a device driver screws up, the results can be severe.

We have all experienced a crash in User Mode. The application falls over, and the operating system throws up an error message. It's annoying, but the operating system can carry on.

When a crash happens in Kernel Mode, the operating system can no longer guarantee the integrity of your data, so it does the only thing it can. It dumps the entire contents of the memory to disk (using a Microsoft low level device driver), displays the bugcheck screen (Blue Screen of Death) and reboots.
I'm not familiar with Clownstrike's Falcon thing, but it is some kind of security software which must be doing funky stuff in, extraordinarily, Kernel Mode.

Now think Star Trek for a moment. One minute you're sitting there, the next Crowdstrike use the transporter to teleport a turd into your brain. Not a lot you can do under those circumstances.

Sounds like they should not of been handed the Privalige.. ( & don’t say “NO SH*T”).
Surely Microsoft hand out the privelages ? So buck has to stop with them?
They let
The guys have the keys to the house

 

[Spanky]

Sounds like they should not of been handed the Privalige.. ( & don’t say “NO SH*T”).
Surely Microsoft hand out the privelages ? So buck has to stop with them?
They let
The guys have the keys to the house

Not Microsoft. The operating system and the processor has these two modes built in and ideally, and usually, you have applications run in User Mode so that if they crash, it's not catastrophic. That's a Good Thing.

No one is forced to install the Crowdstrike software - those who have done so, will have done so because they thought it would provide useful protection against threats, and it almost certainly does.

When an update is released for security software, it's in response to a new threat. So you've got two choices - install the update, or get your arse hacked.

 

[Retroman839]

Not Microsoft. The operating system and the processor has these two modes built in and ideally, and usually, you have applications run in User Mode so that if they crash, it's not catastrophic. That's a Good Thing.

No one is forced to install the Crowdstrike software - those who have done so, will have done so because they thought it would provide useful protection against threats, and it almost certainly does.

When an update is released for security software, it's in response to a new threat. So you've got two choices - install the update, or get your arse hacked.

Yep that’s tru..
But don’t Microsoft control privalige to the kernel ?

 

[Spanky]

Yep that’s tru..
But don’t Microsoft control privalige to the kernel ?

Well yes and no. You know when you install the thing to make your printer work, a box pops up and you have to approve it to proceed? That's you, as an Administrator on that computer allowing that software to run in Kernel Mode from then on.

 

[Retroman839]

Well yes and no. You know when you install the thing to make your printer work, a box pops up and you have to approve it to proceed? That's you, as an Administrator on that computer allowing that software to run in Kernel Mode from then on.