Need a CPU and mobo upgrade - now built!
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I just got a multiple hundred pound discount on a 1152 dimming zone monster of a monitor that was supposedly on backorder delivered within days of ordering.
Anyway, my original post said:
All this said ... I am a TOTAL Scan-stan, though, and would stand up for them through thick and thin. They are **EXCELLENT** ... there is no other word for it ... I would ALWAYS say buy from them ... but I was trying to appear balanced.
I will usually do my window shopping on tax-dodge-zon .co .uk ... then just buy it all on Scan, either straight away, or wait for a sale if I'm not in a rush.
... Overclockers might be more expensive ... but they're generally there or there abouts. But literally NO-WHERE can match the price that they have on the monitor I just spoke of (above this quote and here) ... plus you are buying from a British company, so your money will more directly go back to where YOU need it when YOU need it.
Anyway, my original post said:
The point is ... pay a little more, have WAAAAY better service. Plus you can phone through and speak to them about everything, and likely knock them down some if you can show that (for example) Scan are offering something comparable for the same price. Also ... it's not just about returns ...
All this said ... I am a TOTAL Scan-stan, though, and would stand up for them through thick and thin. They are **EXCELLENT** ... there is no other word for it ... I would ALWAYS say buy from them ... but I was trying to appear balanced.
I will usually do my window shopping on tax-dodge-zon .co .uk ... then just buy it all on Scan, either straight away, or wait for a sale if I'm not in a rush.
Ditto, them or CCL, sadly CCL have got a little greedy a late so prices on popular parts go past RRP, Scan got my RTX 5080 purchase recently for being decent with prices, but my wallet can't ignore the price of things from Amazon! (inc £500 off my 4K proj in a sale a few months back).
Funny thing though, used to always try local shops first, but the price difference kept growing, and saving a hundred quid here and there does not promote loyalty to them sadly.
The bare facts are that these places are roughly the same price as Amazon, you will do better to buy from them not Amazon.
Do what you like, but there's a good few of us that aren't here to troll saying that you should spend a little more and buy from (for example) Scan, instead of the American twunts.
Do what you like, but there's a good few of us that aren't here to troll saying that you should spend a little more and buy from (for example) Scan, instead of the American twunts.
pooman2084
Be Attitude For Gains!
Ok! I've got most of my bits ready for a build this weekend. Clearly I've ended up with a bigger upgrade than I intended but it should see me good for a long time.
I tried to get bits here and there and got the GPU from a private seller but had to use Amazon for a couple of the big parts as it saved me over £100 which helped me squeeze in a bit more performance.
I've ended up with:
AMD 9700x (the under-volting possibilities are great on this CPU normally running at 65W, lots more performance before hitting heat limits)
240 and 360 AIO and Peerless Assassin coolers
2Tb Gen5 SSD at up to 14k read / write (!)
32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR 5 6000 CL30 RAM
Asrock X870 Steelbook Motherboard
4070ti OC (got a nice deal on a new one)
I'm keeping my old shitty case for now. I'm definitely not a RGB rainbow puke kind of guy.
I have a gen 3 m2 SSD (something like 1800 speed) in my current PC as an OS drive. It's archaic v the new gen5 one. Am I OK running windows and my games all on the new drive or should I get another smaller gen 4 to run my OS?
I tried to get bits here and there and got the GPU from a private seller but had to use Amazon for a couple of the big parts as it saved me over £100 which helped me squeeze in a bit more performance.
I've ended up with:
AMD 9700x (the under-volting possibilities are great on this CPU normally running at 65W, lots more performance before hitting heat limits)
240 and 360 AIO and Peerless Assassin coolers
2Tb Gen5 SSD at up to 14k read / write (!)
32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR 5 6000 CL30 RAM
Asrock X870 Steelbook Motherboard
4070ti OC (got a nice deal on a new one)
I'm keeping my old shitty case for now. I'm definitely not a RGB rainbow puke kind of guy.
I have a gen 3 m2 SSD (something like 1800 speed) in my current PC as an OS drive. It's archaic v the new gen5 one. Am I OK running windows and my games all on the new drive or should I get another smaller gen 4 to run my OS?
I'd say that you're fine with it for the OS drive, and even for the games drive ... but it's good to separate your games drive from your OS drive, anyway ... just to not tie the games to a drive that will have a lot more write actions on it like the OS.
Also, it gives more potential to utilise (for example) a steam library in another Operating System.
I think that only the most modern, open world, games, will benefit from GEN 5 speed ... but I could be talking out of my arse, there.
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EDITED TO ADD
Don't chicken out ... get on this tomoz ... and don't give up until things are running good! 🙏
Also, it gives more potential to utilise (for example) a steam library in another Operating System.
I think that only the most modern, open world, games, will benefit from GEN 5 speed ... but I could be talking out of my arse, there.
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EDITED TO ADD
Don't chicken out ... get on this tomoz ... and don't give up until things are running good! 🙏
The drive you can partition so if C drive keels over you don't lose everything, but a 500gig gen 4 with middling speeds can be had for nowt now.
Gen 5 is pretty useless atm, very few games use direct storage, and a fast gen 4 would kinda be a second behind since you are in the couple of seconds loading on those anyway, but still nice for the future!
Gen 5 is pretty useless atm, very few games use direct storage, and a fast gen 4 would kinda be a second behind since you are in the couple of seconds loading on those anyway, but still nice for the future!
pooman2084
Be Attitude For Gains!
I'd say that you're fine with it for the OS drive, and even for the games drive ... but it's good to separate your games drive from your OS drive, anyway ... just to not tie the games to a drive that will have a lot more write actions on it like the OS.
Also, it gives more potential to utilise (for example) a steam library in another Operating System.
I think that only the most modern, open world, games, will benefit from GEN 5 speed ... but I could be talking out of my arse, there.
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EDITED TO ADD
Don't chicken out ... get on this tomoz ... and don't give up until things are running good! 🙏
You know what, for £40 or so I'll just pick up a small GEN4 stick for Windows and can have a partition on it to provide another backup for photos etc.
I'll get on it Sunday, I want to show my lad how it all works. It'll be fun to do together. No need to rush though, I suspect it'll be next week by the time I'm OC'd and up and running. It's too damn hot anyway!
If all else fails, you're not far from me I guess!
pooman2084
Be Attitude For Gains!
We are up and running and yowsers, what an upgrade! I dug a shit load of dust and dirt out of my old case and had it looking good as new before I started. I took it nice and slow and it took me most of the day doing things steadily and double checking as I went. I spent most of the night installing Windows and drivers etc but managed a few games today. Honestly some of the modern games have blown me away. I tried Indy, Plague's Tale: Innocence, Senua's Saga and MSFS. I managed to fill my nice new 2tb card with Xbox Gaming Pass already!
Other that the incredible boost to fidelity and frames, the games load in seconds rather than minutes and pop-up has completely gone. Some of the games genuinely are photo-realistic now, I've been especially impressed with faces and expressions. Frame gen has been surprisingly effective so far, I genuinely couldn't see any artifacting
I went for air cooling in the end as my case would have been a PITA for a AIO and I could have only squeezed a 240 in there. The only issue I have is that the 4070ti instructions say I can't use one cable to plug 2x8 pin PCI-e into the 16 pin PCI-e.
I must have binned my spares years ago as I can't find another to fit into my PSU. Seemingly the one I bought BITD (Golden Flower something or other) doesn't sell spares. I've used a daisy chained one for the moment but will try not to stretch the card in the meantime whilst I figure out a solution. It would be a shame to have to bin it as it has performed well for me over the years.
It's some weird 9 pin Molex thing:
Also didn't take back plate off mobo before installing. If that's the biggest mistake I've made, I did well!
Other that the incredible boost to fidelity and frames, the games load in seconds rather than minutes and pop-up has completely gone. Some of the games genuinely are photo-realistic now, I've been especially impressed with faces and expressions. Frame gen has been surprisingly effective so far, I genuinely couldn't see any artifacting
I went for air cooling in the end as my case would have been a PITA for a AIO and I could have only squeezed a 240 in there. The only issue I have is that the 4070ti instructions say I can't use one cable to plug 2x8 pin PCI-e into the 16 pin PCI-e.
I must have binned my spares years ago as I can't find another to fit into my PSU. Seemingly the one I bought BITD (Golden Flower something or other) doesn't sell spares. I've used a daisy chained one for the moment but will try not to stretch the card in the meantime whilst I figure out a solution. It would be a shame to have to bin it as it has performed well for me over the years.
It's some weird 9 pin Molex thing:
Also didn't take back plate off mobo before installing. If that's the biggest mistake I've made, I did well!
In agreement with @Ace`, @pooman2084, mate.
Also ... Make sure you're using the correct cables from the PSU MFCTR for powering *anything* because sometimes they'll often also have different pinouts.
( sorry if this is all 'sucking eggs' nonsense ... please do ignore me if it is! 😅 )
Also ... Make sure you're using the correct cables from the PSU MFCTR for powering *anything* because sometimes they'll often also have different pinouts.
( sorry if this is all 'sucking eggs' nonsense ... please do ignore me if it is! 😅 )
kingtreelo
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water cooling is a fad, air cooling with a proper case is the way to go and costs a fraction of the price
Full loop yeah, but an AIO can help your CPU boost higher and do sustained loads for longer than an air cooler, https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-III-RGB/dp/B0DLWFCVSD is a brilliant bang for buck cooler (and cheaper than some Noctuas
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pooman2084
Be Attitude For Gains!
Those Molexes plug into the modular PSU and go to 2 x 8 GPU headers. They’ve powered a 980ti and a 3060ti before. Overclockers built thisas a mid-range system with it as the base so they are half decent.
The instructions of the 4070ti OC say to use two outputs on the PSU to power it, presumably due to the capacity of a single set of wires to provide enough power. There is a daisy chain on the one I have, presumably for SLI, but I've plugged them both into the provided 2x8 to PCI-e 16 pin adapter. I'll just won't add any extra OC for now. I ordered what looked like a similar plug on eBay, but will be sure to beep it out with the meter to make sure it's pinned the same.
Otherwise I might just pick up a budget 850W PSU for £80 or so with a built in 16 pin and be done with it.
Yeah ... that was the thing I was on about ... they all look identical ... but the actual pins in the PSU could be swapped and (as a result) the individual cables might / might not be differently routed to the GPU end plug.
Either way, I am 100% sure that you're all over it ... was purely mentioning it to keep it in your brain if you're playing around with different cables and suchlike.
I mean ... I've probably done similar myself, in the past ... and maybe/luckily gotten away with it. 😅
Either way, I am 100% sure that you're all over it ... was purely mentioning it to keep it in your brain if you're playing around with different cables and suchlike.
I mean ... I've probably done similar myself, in the past ... and maybe/luckily gotten away with it. 😅