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anyone use these? its a possible solution for me, are there any specific brands to go for or ones to avoid?
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I use Devolo 200mbps ones - the PC in the living room has one, the router upstairs has one and the hub that connects to the shed has one. That get's the net to the places that cables can't reach in our house.
Devolo were (iirc) the original ones to do this so they weren't particularly cheap. I think they're cheaper now from other makes. So yeah, I think they're a reasonable option.
Devolo were (iirc) the original ones to do this so they weren't particularly cheap. I think they're cheaper now from other makes. So yeah, I think they're a reasonable option.
They worked fine in the house, but when I tried to use them to allow me to connect stuff from the games room (on a seperate fuse from the main fuse box)
odd, as it worked fine from one ring main to the other in the house, just not to the third to the games room.
odd, as it worked fine from one ring main to the other in the house, just not to the third to the games room.
I have been using addon 85 mbps for nealry 2 years, its done the job for net printing ect, forget copying files it takes ages. i need to run a cable 
I get half bandwidtch on the net which i cant explain. but on the whole if its your only choice then it works well.
Never had to reboot them or anything just leave them on, i even use a 24 port switch onmine to run 3 comps, i am greedy
If you cant run a cable & as the other member says it must be on the same circuit it will run, i dont get any noise issue althoguh a friend of mine has got those issues.
One the whole Yes they work and do there job, for me nothing beats hardwire.
Hi All btw just joined....
I get half bandwidtch on the net which i cant explain. but on the whole if its your only choice then it works well.
Never had to reboot them or anything just leave them on, i even use a 24 port switch onmine to run 3 comps, i am greedy
If you cant run a cable & as the other member says it must be on the same circuit it will run, i dont get any noise issue althoguh a friend of mine has got those issues.
One the whole Yes they work and do there job, for me nothing beats hardwire.
Hi All btw just joined....
Hi. I've also got Devolo dLAN 200 AVeasy adaptors. One is plugged direct into the wall and the other is in a power bank. I can stream video at 15MB/sec before it starts stuttering and if I plugged the second directly into the wall I'm pretty sure I'd get the full 200 mbit. They're pretty cool, they go into low-power mode if not in use and they also implement push-button AES encryption which doesn't seem to slow anything down.
I was a bit peeved to find that after I bought mine (from Maplin - maybe £70 for the pair?) that they'd just released a new version which had the same spec, but also a pass-thru plug on the front so you can make them the first device into the wall and also chain off a power block without dropping the throughput. I'd heartily recommend them!
cheers
tim
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I was a bit peeved to find that after I bought mine (from Maplin - maybe £70 for the pair?) that they'd just released a new version which had the same spec, but also a pass-thru plug on the front so you can make them the first device into the wall and also chain off a power block without dropping the throughput. I'd heartily recommend them!
cheers
tim
ps Hi cyberbob and welcome to UKVAC! I hope you enjoy it here and if you feel like it, post up an intro in the new users section but don't feel obliged.
kernow said:Good idea definitely, beware though if you're into your AV or audio stuff as they introduce a lot of noise into the mains apparently.
I've got to say I've not noticed any impact from this, and any decent PSU should filter this stuff out. I'm pretty sure they use a carrier wave that's way up in the MHz range so I'd expect that to get dissipated by ferrite coils or any other kind of filtering in a decent spec PSU, which I'd guess most "audiophiles" are using.
Interestingly I have a mains filtering power block and didn't notice any drop in bandwidth when I tried it in that as a quick test. It must be some black magic voodoo!
ps Kern - I'm working my ass off to try to get the :awe: and :facepalm: emoticons sorted for the site, just to make you feel at home
Hi Andy, I've used Solwise 85mb ones for the last 5 years and they're great. The speed you get is relative to distance and I've had problems with noise using an extension lead. I plug them all directly into a wall socket now and alles gut. It even works on the separate ring in my detached garage (about 75 feet from the main house supply), although it's a good deal slower out there. Most of the stuff I need them for is Internet based so that's the main throttle (being only on 8mb broadband), the plugs obviously are way faster than that.
Dan
Dan
trmatthe said:kernow said:Good idea definitely, beware though if you're into your AV or audio stuff as they introduce a lot of noise into the mains apparently.
I've got to say I've not noticed any impact from this, and any decent PSU should filter this stuff out. I'm pretty sure they use a carrier wave that's way up in the MHz range so I'd expect that to get dissipated by ferrite coils or any other kind of filtering in a decent spec PSU, which I'd guess most "audiophiles" are using.
Interestingly I have a mains filtering power block and didn't notice any drop in bandwidth when I tried it in that as a quick test. It must be some black magic voodoo!
ps Kern - I'm working my ass off to try to get the :awe: and :facepalm: emoticons sorted for the site, just to make you feel at home
guddler said:Just to add to this. If it gives you any idea, yep, the 200mbps ones are a reasonable option, but tomorrow I'm ripping the floor boards up and laying cat 6e. I want gigabits
LAY PAIRS!!!! When I had the living room gutted I had a cable drop to the back of the TV area so I could bring it onto the gigabit HAN*. Everything was cool when I tested it before the plastering was finished, but when I decided to wire it in it started doing weird stuff
As far as I can tell I just lucked out and got a dodgy cable length - I don't think there was any damage caused by the work.So I've got a very nice looking RJ45 wall plate which matches the plates for the phone, sky and power but it's no use
I need to stick a sniffer on it as I can actually get data running over it at 100BASE-T, but DHCP won't work, and I can get data at 1000BASE-T, which suggests all 6 pairs are good but I just can't get anything reliable on it. I've cable tested it which turned out ok, but it was a cheapo chinese tester which I assume just does single wire continuity testing. Probably ought to test the resistance too.
tim
* House Area Network for the networking geeks who remember all that crap about MAN - Metropolitan Area Networks for every city back in the early 00's
andyman said:
I'm not going to give too much detail away as it makes me sound like a real geek, but I've got a force meter that measures in Newtons and I can guarantee that it didn't get tugged hard
I'll probably build/acquire a signal gen and then scope it out, but I'd need to borrow a faster scope, or I could possibly try to borrow a TDR from somebody. Just gutted that everything was cool until I needed to wire the presentation panels
I even changed the layout of the LV lighting to make sure that the wiring and transformers weren't crossing the signal path, yet if that was the case I'd expect to see some improvement at 10 or 100-BT speeds. I'm pretty sure I've got a dodgy run that was mid-reel.
So at the moment I'm using a mix of wifi and eth-over-mains as a gigabit drop in the living room isn't worth 10k's worth of replastering! Unless maybe I let the bath overflow...
So ever since that the mantra has been dropping pairs
How do you do fibre in-house?
I've just discovered that my ADSL dropped to a lower speed on 4/1/11 - funny that as I distinctly remember a BT man up the pole directly opposite the house during the last lot of snow!
I'm really struggling to work out the best way to get cable to the PC and games room rather than EoP adapters and I've only got tomorrow to lay the cables before the decorators are in during my absence next week
I've just discovered that my ADSL dropped to a lower speed on 4/1/11 - funny that as I distinctly remember a BT man up the pole directly opposite the house during the last lot of snow!
I'm really struggling to work out the best way to get cable to the PC and games room rather than EoP adapters and I've only got tomorrow to lay the cables before the decorators are in during my absence next week
I've got cable going up to the games room. 4 of them in fact. All buried underground. I should probably have qualified what I said!
At the moment I've got the ADSL comes in to the front spare room where all of my repair kit is. The router is a Draytek 2710 that does a couple wired bits in that room, the printer and two wireless networks. 1 for guest acces and the other for the games consoles in the living room and our phones. There is also a 200mbps Devolo plugged in to it.
Then, down in the living room there's a Devolo connecting my games PC and in the conservatory there's a Devolo connecting a four port 10/100 hub. From here 4 cables go underground about 120' up to the shed where there is an Apple time capsule which has a couple of wires things plugged in, plus it supplies wireless for the shed. One cable isn't connected. I need 5 ports! Unfortunately I've had to use a hub in the conservatory as the only switches that I had were cheap ones and when I tried one of those the signal run was too long.
So, I'm trying to do two things. Firstly go gigabit on the wired portion of the network - spare room stuff aside as the ADSL router is fairly new and expensive so I'm not replacing that. Secondly, so that I can get decent speeds between the Time Capsule and the rest of the network I want to replace the Devolo's with a proper cable run.
I'm still trying to work it out but I'm leaning towards a Netgear GS-108 in the conservatory (5 + 3 spare for expansion), a Netgear GS-105 in the cupboard under the stairs and connect the games PC and the conservatory by putting a cable run under the floorboards upstairs and dropping down into the living room and the stairs. Then finally connect the GS-105 to the ADSL router by one final cable, again under the floorboards into the spare room.
It's a hell of a lot of effort but I generally find wireless to be about as much use as a chocolate poker, and I want faster than the Devolo's will provide. Though I will keep them for the odd connection in the future where there's no cables.
At the moment I've got the ADSL comes in to the front spare room where all of my repair kit is. The router is a Draytek 2710 that does a couple wired bits in that room, the printer and two wireless networks. 1 for guest acces and the other for the games consoles in the living room and our phones. There is also a 200mbps Devolo plugged in to it.
Then, down in the living room there's a Devolo connecting my games PC and in the conservatory there's a Devolo connecting a four port 10/100 hub. From here 4 cables go underground about 120' up to the shed where there is an Apple time capsule which has a couple of wires things plugged in, plus it supplies wireless for the shed. One cable isn't connected. I need 5 ports! Unfortunately I've had to use a hub in the conservatory as the only switches that I had were cheap ones and when I tried one of those the signal run was too long.
So, I'm trying to do two things. Firstly go gigabit on the wired portion of the network - spare room stuff aside as the ADSL router is fairly new and expensive so I'm not replacing that. Secondly, so that I can get decent speeds between the Time Capsule and the rest of the network I want to replace the Devolo's with a proper cable run.
I'm still trying to work it out but I'm leaning towards a Netgear GS-108 in the conservatory (5 + 3 spare for expansion), a Netgear GS-105 in the cupboard under the stairs and connect the games PC and the conservatory by putting a cable run under the floorboards upstairs and dropping down into the living room and the stairs. Then finally connect the GS-105 to the ADSL router by one final cable, again under the floorboards into the spare room.
It's a hell of a lot of effort but I generally find wireless to be about as much use as a chocolate poker, and I want faster than the Devolo's will provide. Though I will keep them for the odd connection in the future where there's no cables.