Nintendo N64 switch controllers

[pubjoe]

Great pad. The analogue stick actually felt analogue. Most pad sticks since have kind of gotten tighter and springier, making you tap directions as though using a dpad. Because of this N64 games that made the most of 3D movement tend to suffer when played on anything else.

Solid plus-sized dpad too.

Its main flaw is the stick wearing down with age. I never minded the tri-grip thing.

 

[Retroman839]

For me it’s the best controller ever
And I think the reason for this is
- miyamotto -
Nintendo R &D having the correct approach to game creation.

The N64 controller was clearly borne out of Mario 64 the game.

For shiguru miyamotto his concepts where allowed to be realised because they recognised his brilliance.

Sadly ninty lost direction with the Wii/wii u & switch ( cash in on cheap media platform after loosing out with n64 against Sony & the cd /dvd .
Game cube should have been dvd /dvd player as standerd. Another bad oversight from ninty:

I hope they find their vavavoom again one day but how ? If remaking old hats earns the coins ?

 

[big10p]

Lost direction with the Switch? It's a design masterpiece among consoles and has been (and still is) a total cash cow for Nintendo.

 

[Retroman839]

Lost direction with the Switch? It's a design masterpiece among consoles and has been (and still is) a total cash cow for Nintendo.

Coin for old hat.
N64 was a mind blowing generational leap . Maybe we won’t see that again in out life time.


Could the n64 emulate snes or nes …
They could have churned out old hat on that then too🤣🤣 if they had a low cost medium. Rather than the DD.
They stopped the pirates but in doing so they couldn’t turn out cheap media them selves.

No dvd /cd . Loads of copies ps1, ps2. But who won Sony did! Even treading on ninty’s toes in the process with the ill fated successor to the snes .

Now ninty just coining what they feel that lost then. Maybe they will make a genuine successor to n64 one day ❤️. Love to see them embrace another pirate beating medium cartridge based console .
With superior graphics. But when you’ve gone from 2d to 3d where can you go VR ? If not is it just more resolutions ? Higher detailed textures ?
It needs to be controller inavation for more immersion, and shiguru new it and gave us the beauty that is the N64 controller.

 

[kingtreelo]

you just said they lost direction with the Wii, that has probably the most innovative control system of all time

 

[Retroman839]

you just said they lost direction with the Wii, that has probably the most innovative control system of all time

Yeh it’s good. N64 was first analogue stick. It’s was an innovation.
Archery with motion plus wii sports was good , N64 analogue still imo best of all time

 

[Akira99]

i would like to hear those games, it could well be possible i have played then only very briefly

I didnt include Vigilante 8 as it was out on other platforms, that is a very good game

I prefered the first Vigilante 8 to Vigilante 8 2nd Offensive if I'm gonna be honest

 

[Akira99]

Even though I brought a switch for my boys, its okay and not my favourite Nintendo console. My personal favourite Big N consoles are the SNES and the Gamecube. I do love the N64, however the controller was basically created for Mario 64 and I do like the controller by the way, also I just wish it could have lived up to hype of the Ultra 64.

 

[Akira99]

Coin for old hat.
N64 was a mind blowing generational leap . Maybe we won’t see that again in out life time.


Could the n64 emulate snes or nes …
They could have churned out old hat on that then too🤣🤣 if they had a low cost medium. Rather than the DD.
They stopped the pirates but in doing so they couldn’t turn out cheap media them selves.

No dvd /cd . Loads of copies ps1, ps2. But who won Sony did! Even treading on ninty’s toes in the process with the ill fated successor to the snes .

Now ninty just coining what they feel that lost then. Maybe they will make a genuine successor to n64 one day ❤️. Love to see them embrace another pirate beating medium cartridge based console .
With superior graphics. But when you’ve gone from 2d to 3d where can you go VR ? If not is it just more resolutions ? Higher detailed textures ?
It needs to be controller inavation for more immersion, and shiguru new it and gave us the beauty that is the N64 controller.

Totally agree, I personally don't think we will ever get a proper successor to the N64 but fingers crossed though

 

[kingtreelo]

i don't get what you mean when you say "proper successor"

 

[Akira99]

i don't get what you mean when you say "proper successor"

For me personally I found the N64 to be very innovative for its time in design and pushing graphically the cartridge based console further, whilst also beating the pirates. It just seems to me that Nintendo never want to make another 'mind blowing generational leap' console like the N64 again

 

[Retroman839]

i don't get what you mean when you say "proper successor"

Cart based with instant loading,
Would be a good start.

They cut back on the power of the SG based graphics chip they used for mass production compared to the demo zelda game shown At Tokyo game show.
So a super graphics chip is a no brainier what ever that means these days 😜

 

[kingtreelo]

they arent in that market though, even though the switch is extremely successful, its not a competitor to the Xbox and PS5

they have gone in a different albeit still extremely successful direction, they are like the video game version of LEGO

 

[Retroman839]

they arent in that market though, even though the switch is extremely successful, its not a competitor to the Xbox and PS5

they have gone in a different albeit still extremely successful direction, they are like the video game version of LEGO

Yeh I think that’s why Nintendo fans of the cart based systems still want to see a new cart based machine one day.
-A true spiritual successor-
Sit atop the tree.

If it had amazing graphics.
A console that boasted the line up that only Nintendo can it would smash it!


But it would once again need to
Be amazing.


N64 lost the love from the third party developers With the n64’s Lack of storage on the medium and just not being able to develop a game,
No final fantasy ( canned ff7 n64 project was the nail in Japan )

Just look at the dates
Ps1 release 1994 N64 ff7 in the works canned for ps1
N64 release 1996

Ff7 release 1997 …. N64 Toast
Couple that with Sony spies showing off the ps2 Sony had already won.

Question is could solid state storage be commercialy viable again,

A new Nintendo should be offline playable so content needs to be on the medium

 

[kingtreelo]

a cart based gaming system will never happen again

even when you buy a "cart" for the switch, you still need to be connected to the internet to download updates, and in a many cases, the game cant be played without internet access

the internet changed everything, games from the PS1 era are going for silly money now, physical media is a thing on the past, even though we all hate to admit it

 

[John Bennett]

I've got to say, I never saw the N64 as a 'leap' over anything.

For me personally I found the N64 to be very innovative for its time in design and pushing graphically the cartridge based console further, whilst also beating the pirates. It just seems to me that Nintendo never want to make another 'mind blowing generational leap' console like the N64 again

What did you see it as being a leap over?
It looked nice at its time, but I'd say it was firmly of the PS1/Saturn generation, where each one had their own special powers, and weakness .
I think by the DC/GC/XBOX/PS2, everything was looking very similar.

I think if Nintendo do well with the next console, it'll be because of some innovative spin on the design of the system or the controls, that's what made the Gameboy, DS, Wii and Switch their most successful machines by some way. I guess the Wii U was different, but just not enough. I loved my Gamecube, but it was just a nicely-styled little console ultimately.
Trying to out-polygon the big two is pointless and can people even tell anymore when you throw in another million transistors to make a shadow on a tree in the background look nicer?

List of best-selling game consoles - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mind you, I thought the N64 never did that well, but it seemed to outsell the Megadrive!

 

[pooman2084]

The n64 was waaay smoother and didn’t have all the janky polygons of the PS. I remember seeing Mario and thinking it was a huge upgrade over my PS. So much so I imported one right away.

Wave Race as well. No way PS could have done that game.

It didn’t have the cool factor that Sony had, but it had the better Wipeout and RE2 was phenomenal, proving it could deliver on big high storage experiences too.

 

[Retroman839]

People will buy both.
Because nintendos IP is so good we games want both.
They can get away with going less horse power under the hood because it has such pretty clothes,

But we don’t want that anymore.
We want Nintendo to do what it it did when it did the n64.
Simply the best in all departments.

Looking back we can see its flaws but at the time it was jaw dropping ,first to look at but then when you felt the game play with the analogue stick and later the rumble pack it was a joy!

Games where actually like a toy.

Pilot wings
Blast core
Star fox Like having toys in your hand to Controll with all these innovative functions.
The card board inserts with all the Controlls mapped out for you on the stick was a joy seeing how they had reinvented the controller with every new game that came out. New games were a buzz. Replay value was amazing shaving seconds off on wave race by diving harder into the waves!
I will never forget ps1 high points tekken 2 , RR revolution , R evil , wipeout , destruction derby, It was great no doubt about it, But n64 hit a pinical it had to be better than the great ps1 and it was not easy with the cartridge which just let it down in the end. People like square Enix / capcom / Konami Just doing what anyone would do and hedging their bets on a safe horse.

game cube got metal gear eventually
But got final fantasy crystal cronicals ?
Now square don’t care final fantasy everywhere …
But back then it was a coup for Sony
For exclusivity

Now Nintendo has really built its ip up.
Through massive sales with wii /U / switch all being underpowered / cheap to manufacture underdogs , but commercially successful. Where is it going ? It needs to come
Out from under the big 2 and stand in the sun again. It’s where it belongs.
The likes of Mario & zelda , wave race / pilot wings should be at the very pinical of console gaming
katamari damacy ,mGS & ico also included 😉

 

[Retroman839]

I see Sony & Xbox are blatantly copying switch to steal some thunder.

They can’t help themselves can they.

Why waste money on R&D.

Just hope the next Nintendo has new wave race, star fox, pilot wings, then I will be in!

 

[kingtreelo]

I see Sony & Xbox are blatantly copying switch to steal some thunder.

They can’t help themselves can they.

Why waste money on R&D.

Just hope the next Nintendo has new wave race, star fox, pilot wings, then I will be in!

are they bringing out a really shit controller, i've not seen that memo yet