Wow this new cab trying my skills to the limits.
Ok when I got it the screen had wavy lines (intermittent) after speaking to Tim (on here) he said chassis gnd for the monitor floating.
Good man as he was right...fixed that and perfect picture.
Ok I had problems with force feedback being weak...after some gun recoil motor swapping still the same, then tried another known good gun board (From Si) and it was the same, after ages of messing and swapping I think my problem was a blown fuse which must have been touching still just slightly even though it had half blown.
So put new caps on my gun board and put another good fuse it and all is well...good strong recoil!
Now the light gun sensor was kinda working to start with but would intermittently fade out and stop working??
Now I have 2x complete guns, 3x light gun sensor pcb's, a spare gun drive board + 4 op wolf pcbs
All do the same thing although it was ok for a bit when I got it?
Now nothing, shots appear on the screen but all at the top and it doesn't matter where you move the gun or even if you take the pcb out and point it directly at the screen.
I'm thinking that the loom loom isn't right.
(Like bad gnd or back feeding power down the wrong way?)
Phil has all the spares from another cab on it's way to me so...
Another Taito psu, another iso/transformer (which feeds the gun drive board with 10VAC and 11VAC) a full loom + another gun drive pcb.
To give you an idea 10VAC and 11VAC come from the massive iso, then the gun drive board converts this to -12v DC and +12v DC.
I have measured a good -12v dc and +12v dc coming out from the gun drive board (and tried a spare) both ok...BUT if I measure the voltage at the gun wires I get:
+16v DC and +12v DC
The +16v should be +12v
The +12v I'm getting should be -12v
(According to op wolf schems)
Why is the what should be a minus voltage actually a +12v ? (I have checked that leads were the correct way around)
And why is my +12v so high at 16v-17v?
Madness
This cab has got me awake at night I'm telling you!
Been a couple of weeks now and still I can't play it!
I know it's half the fun but at the same time I was thinking maybe it would be ok by now.
I'm close but no doughnut for tea just yet.
I have sound issues on my pcbs but 2 in the post from Nitrus so hopefully I can sort a worker out of them...or fix my part working one I have at the mo, same fault as Si's one and I have his known good pcb to compare repairs that Vectorglow did, but that isn't a problem at the moment.
Si's 100% good board works fine other than the gun sensor can't see the screen the same as all of mine so 100% it's the cab at fault.
I've cleaned the sensor, glass, mirror lense even tried other sensors, lenses and guns so we know it can only be my cab.
Really that only leaves the looms/psu's but I have all the correct voltages everywhere but at the gun sensor pcb wire/conector so it isn't gonna work.
I really want to hack a wire direct from the gun drive pcb (bottom of cab) where I know the voltage is fine direct to the gun sensor pcb (in the gun) just rule out the wiring, but don't want to hack anything just yet.
Phil's box of goodies on the way may just be ok when I lob it all in the cab.
Any idea's...wow that has finished me off typing this, any questions or please ask what I have tried and not tried to gauge an idea for yourself what I may have missed.
I don't 'think' I have missed anything, I've tried so much all logical in order.
(FOR 2 WEEKS)
When it half worked when I got it, the faults were really intermittent and one thing at a time I swapped stuff in/out and the fault was the same no matter what I did.
At times I thought wiggling of wires changed things but I think all that did was make the wavy lines come/go.
If it was a car I'd say wiring all day long?
Anything stupid I may have missed or understood incorrectly.
Sorry for a long read, thanks for your time if you got this far.
Any advice WARMLY welcome
paulcan692012-07-11 23:33:04
Ok when I got it the screen had wavy lines (intermittent) after speaking to Tim (on here) he said chassis gnd for the monitor floating.
Good man as he was right...fixed that and perfect picture.
Ok I had problems with force feedback being weak...after some gun recoil motor swapping still the same, then tried another known good gun board (From Si) and it was the same, after ages of messing and swapping I think my problem was a blown fuse which must have been touching still just slightly even though it had half blown.
So put new caps on my gun board and put another good fuse it and all is well...good strong recoil!
Now the light gun sensor was kinda working to start with but would intermittently fade out and stop working??
Now I have 2x complete guns, 3x light gun sensor pcb's, a spare gun drive board + 4 op wolf pcbs
All do the same thing although it was ok for a bit when I got it?
Now nothing, shots appear on the screen but all at the top and it doesn't matter where you move the gun or even if you take the pcb out and point it directly at the screen.
I'm thinking that the loom loom isn't right.
(Like bad gnd or back feeding power down the wrong way?)
Phil has all the spares from another cab on it's way to me so...
Another Taito psu, another iso/transformer (which feeds the gun drive board with 10VAC and 11VAC) a full loom + another gun drive pcb.
To give you an idea 10VAC and 11VAC come from the massive iso, then the gun drive board converts this to -12v DC and +12v DC.
I have measured a good -12v dc and +12v dc coming out from the gun drive board (and tried a spare) both ok...BUT if I measure the voltage at the gun wires I get:
+16v DC and +12v DC
The +16v should be +12v
The +12v I'm getting should be -12v
(According to op wolf schems)
Why is the what should be a minus voltage actually a +12v ? (I have checked that leads were the correct way around)
And why is my +12v so high at 16v-17v?
Madness
This cab has got me awake at night I'm telling you!
Been a couple of weeks now and still I can't play it!
I know it's half the fun but at the same time I was thinking maybe it would be ok by now.
I'm close but no doughnut for tea just yet.
I have sound issues on my pcbs but 2 in the post from Nitrus so hopefully I can sort a worker out of them...or fix my part working one I have at the mo, same fault as Si's one and I have his known good pcb to compare repairs that Vectorglow did, but that isn't a problem at the moment.
Si's 100% good board works fine other than the gun sensor can't see the screen the same as all of mine so 100% it's the cab at fault.
I've cleaned the sensor, glass, mirror lense even tried other sensors, lenses and guns so we know it can only be my cab.
Really that only leaves the looms/psu's but I have all the correct voltages everywhere but at the gun sensor pcb wire/conector so it isn't gonna work.
I really want to hack a wire direct from the gun drive pcb (bottom of cab) where I know the voltage is fine direct to the gun sensor pcb (in the gun) just rule out the wiring, but don't want to hack anything just yet.
Phil's box of goodies on the way may just be ok when I lob it all in the cab.
Any idea's...wow that has finished me off typing this, any questions or please ask what I have tried and not tried to gauge an idea for yourself what I may have missed.
I don't 'think' I have missed anything, I've tried so much all logical in order.
(FOR 2 WEEKS)
When it half worked when I got it, the faults were really intermittent and one thing at a time I swapped stuff in/out and the fault was the same no matter what I did.
At times I thought wiggling of wires changed things but I think all that did was make the wavy lines come/go.
If it was a car I'd say wiring all day long?
Anything stupid I may have missed or understood incorrectly.
Sorry for a long read, thanks for your time if you got this far.
paulcan692012-07-11 23:33:04