[OTish] Mame driver help...

[guddler]

[ukvac] [OTish] Mame driver help...
If there an easy way to know what version of mame a particular game appeared and dissapeared in??

I've got roms that ident as "Gobbler" by romident, but current mame driver doesn't have Gobbler, neither does:

0.31
0.37b16
0.66
0.79
0.82

And now i'm getting bored of downloading random source files trying to find which version it's in!

I want to know as i want to verify which sound roms it uses.

I have a fault which involves sound and also object graphics, and i've just realised that i have two halves of a cocktail game from different versions of pacman (doh!) and while it's highly unlikely i just want to see if mame reproduces the problem(s)

VERY unlikely for the sound, but it's possible for the graphics issues...

Ta,
Martin.

 

[system11]

Re: [ukvac] [OTish] Mame driver help...
Romident actually knows a lot more things than just the games in mame -
it will happily identify several unemulated games.

Martin White wrote:
> If there an easy way to know what version of mame a particular game appeared and dissapeared in??
>
> I've got roms that ident as "Gobbler" by romident, but current mame driver doesn't have Gobbler, neither does:
>
> 0.31
> 0.37b16
> 0.66
> 0.79
> 0.82
>
> And now i'm getting bored of downloading random source files trying to find which version it's in!
>
> I want to know as i want to verify which sound roms it uses.
>
> I have a fault which involves sound and also object graphics, and i've just realised that i have two halves of a cocktail game from different versions of pacman (doh!) and while it's highly unlikely i just want to see if mame reproduces the problem(s)

>
> VERY unlikely for the sound, but it's possible for the graphics issues...
>
> Ta,
> Martin.

 

[guddler]

Re: [ukvac] [OTish] Mame driver help...
Hmm, okay, fair enough, but i thought Romident got it's info from the mame files?

Also, Romident hasn't been updated in YEARS!!

Martin.

 

[Guests]

[ukvac] Re: [OTish] Mame driver help...
no romident gets it rom info from ROMIDENT.ROM to romident from mame
you use

mame -romident zipfilename.zip



DATA Imported from archives: originally posted by andy (suicide_c@hotmail.com)

 

[guddler]

Re: [ukvac] Re: [OTish] Mame driver help...
romdient gets it's into from remident.rom, yes. Which is generated from your mame files!

Anyway, moving on, didn't help my problem anyway...

 

[junofirstman]

[ukvac] Re: [OTish] Mame driver help...
Lets set this straight..

Romident is a database of existing rom dumps as of February 19th,
2001 and was written and maintainted by Thierry Lescot

This included all emulated *AND* unemulated sets that were dumped at
that point.

Then a while later, when CRC32's were added to mame, the
functionality to perform the same rom lookups that romident uses was
added to mame.

So, romident and mame use different databases.. Mame's romident uses
the emulated roms in mame as a database. Romident uses a hand built
database (romident.rom).

Mame's database obviously has all the emulated and verified romsets
that are in mame, *but* will be missing any unemulated or rejected
sets. (games with bootleg name changes, copyight removal, etc.
Gobbler is an example of this)

Romident is most likely to have these sets, but as Thierry lost
interest in maintaining gig's of datasets, it's not been updated for
a while, but still has 99% of the classics.

So... There is *no* connection between mame's romident and romident,
except for the rom zip files themselves, which is where the crc32's
come from..

Just use both.. Mame is more upto date, but romident has a bigger
older database.

Chris

 

[guddler]

Re: [ukvac] Re: [OTish] Mame driver help...
Unless i was on drugs or something (which is quite likely i guess) i was referring to the fact that you used to be able to generate romident's database from a mame version...

Okay, well, regardless.

SO, romident tells me that i have object roms from gobbler, an unemulated / dumped / whatever game and program roms from hanglyman set 3. How (if at all) would i be able to tell if it uses the same sound roms as hanglyman 3 for both versions? They don't ident with either romident or mame...

I know it does because i burnt a set of sound proms using the pair in mame and it made naff all difference to the fault, so i know it wasn't the proms that are causing my problems, but it would have been very nice to have been able to get to this stage without burning two proms...

Cheers,
Martin.

 

[guddler]

Re: [ukvac] Re: [OTish] Mame driver help...
Okay, my curiosty now got the better of me :O)

Before i go too far... Chris, can you confirm that Gobbler falls into the category of was once in mame, but then was dropped?

If so, i'm going to download ALL the source sets and then do some hacking seeing as my back is completely shot today from too much leaning over a workbench working on boards yesterday

Ta,
Martin.