Skegness arcades write-up

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Thanks.. an interesting write up.

How cool finding a vewlix VS setup randomly like that in a UK arcade, who knew? they should swap the KOF game out for something else and it might get some more attention.
 

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Great writeup that
ive not been to skeggy for years
Nice to see some older cabs still alive
Touring cars f355 and daytona
Amongst all the new dull on rails shooters
And redemption games
 

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tin said:
something mangled your link..

http://tedsegablog.blogspot.com/2018/08/arcades-on-lincolnshire-coast.html

cheers for writing all that, interesting to read at least. there seems to be quite a few on-their-last-legs cabinets for deals to be made on, and clearly you need to be hired as DDR machine consultant. Why have all the arcades ended up with one of the worst variants?

Thanks for correcting that link mate, I've no idea what f**ked it!

What's happened with the DDR's, well. It's pretty complicated, but it all comes down to arcades not being arsed enough ordering newer parts for the latest versions, so they've ended up downgrading them to one of the easiest to find (and sh*t) versions, Euromix. This was only the second ever release of it here in Europe and it's very basic compared to what comes after it.

LCD conversions are fine most of the time on the usual racing games and shooters, but for DDR they're not too great. Arcades do usually tweak some of the settings to keep the timings fine and to keep lag at a minimum, but Euromix in particular seems to have some sort of issue that can't be fixed if it's running on anything other than CRT.

Apparently it's something to do with it's lower framerate compared to the other DDR games. On some of the machines in Skegness, the timings were so bad that you had to step on the pads a second earlier than usual to make it register, just terrible.
 

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When I used to work for Playnation I remember a couple of Euromix 2 boards failing. When sending them off for repair I was informed that they were not fixable and the only option (apart from scrapping the machine) was to fit a Euromix 1 board instead. I believe the Euromix 1 boards are generally easy to fix, where the 2 boards are near impossible to get going.

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qjuk said:
When I used to work for Playnation I remember a couple of Euromix 2 boards failing. When sending them off for repair I was informed that they were not fixable and the only option (apart from scrapping the machine) was to fit a Euromix 1 board instead. I believe the Euromix 1 boards are generally easy to fix, where the 2 boards are near impossible to get going.

Yeah it's apparently to do with Euromix 2's flash card. Euromix 1 doesn't need one of those, and runs on the same hardware, so it's easier for arcades to just get an EM1 disc instead, they don't care about actual DDR players like they used to, just the casuals who are fine with playing a bloody Boyzone song from almost 20 years ago
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Konami haven't been treating the European DDR scene well for years now, while we did get a number of official releases that America never had from 1999 to 2005, it all went downhill from there. We never got Supernova 2, which led to a big gap in between Supernova 1 and the next release, and when the next mix (X) did come, they used poor quality parts for it which pretty much rendered the game unplayable. Same went for X2, though slightly less so.

We do now have DDR Ace, the latest release, with quality parts, but Konami have priced it stupidly high and not made their online network available to Europe even after making an effort to get it up in America, which I mention in the article of course. As a result a lot of arcades here haven't bothered getting it, and the ones that have are mainly ones down south- in fact the one machine in Skegness is one of only two above London.

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That’s right, I remember now one of the Euromix2 boards sent for repair definitely needed a new flash card, they just couldn’t get one from anywhere at the time, the only option I had was a used replacement Euromix 1 board. Not ideal but it meant I could get the machine back on again.

Nice article on your blog by the way Tedward. I also really enjoyed your write up on Segaworld at the London Trocadero. It brought back memories when I visited it back in the day. Shame it wasn’t around for very long, it was an impressive venue.
 

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Wow. What a great blog. Looks like Skeggy's on the way up - arcade-wise. I'd make the occassional trip there from south Lincs in the noughties. Usually ended up there in the winter for some reason, when the wind chill made it feel like -20. But the games weren't as good then. No old school cabs that I remember, and nothing as cool as The Walking Dead (which is ossum!) or Space Invaders frenzy. I imagine it's still just as windy though?
 
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