Star Wars / Empire crude switchover

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dezbaz said:
Hi Neil

Welcome to the forum :)

Yes a few of us are waiting on the solid state Laser player to arrive, the last part I need in my Dragon's lair is the disc. That will be a day in history when they arrive :)

Also I see you devised a SW and ESB switcher (Homemade). I would love to know more there.

Is it 2 boards (Separate SW and ESB) or did you write software?

Pics ??

I have a few SW and ESB boards I need to fix, and 1 working, so info like this can be valuable (IE how you did it)

I made this in the early '90's after I got an Empire conversion UR cabinet. I thought it would be cool to make it switchable from SW to ESB without having to move the machine and swap PCBs.

Bear in mind that the original PCBs in the cabinet I had was already an authentic Empire conversion, although I had another SW boardset as spare.

I had an EPROM burner and saw that I could use double-sized EPROMs with Star Wars code in the lower half and Empire in the upper half of each EPROM. Then I could make a wire link to the highest address pin of each EPROM and wire it to a pull up resistor to +5V, and then on to a switch to connect to 0V when I wanted to select Star Wars.

For the SLAPSTIC board I did the same but had to risk desoldering the EPROMs and re-soldering the new larger ones, as there was no height without hitting the sound board above it. This was the riskiest part for me.

For the AVG EPROM which was only a 2732, I decided to piggyback two chips and then just stick an inverter gate on the CE input, which I then used as the SW/ESB select line. Not sure now why I did it this way rather than the simpler way of using a 2764 28 pin EPROM.

The high score/settings NOVRAM I didn't know how to deal with, so it just trashed the score /settings data each time it was switched.

It was a crude, brute force way of making it switchable. I also found out that the mathbox PROMs were changed for ESB. The ESB ones would happily let you play SW, but trying to play ESB with the SW mathbox PROMs led to just the AT-AT walkers legs being visible, with no body I seem to remember!

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Fantastic to see something like this that was worked out without the benefit of the Internet and the wealth of information there is out there now. Very impressive
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Alpha1 said:
I spy a clever bugger
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I'm afraid you're way off there...

A clever bugger wouldn't have removed the memory expansion board to photograph it, then plugged it back in without checking it was in the socket correctly, and then spent a Sunday afternoon finding out that it now seems to be knackered...

Looks like one of the EPROMs is dead, just hoping the SLAPSTIC is OK or I won't be a happy bunny
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So that's going to keep me occupied for a while now I guess.

Does anyone still sell SW/ESB conversion kits for a reasonable price? Or is that something that is needed?
 

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Nice work, I kinda understand what you are saying, but it's over my head how you knew how to do it.

Nice work, nice result

Thanks for sharing the info :)
 

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Alpha1 said:
vectorlabs sells them at $175 + shipping

Am I right in thinking I missed the run on those? I 'liked' various things on FB as suggested and I don't remember any notifications though could have binned them amongst all the other FB sh*te.

anyhow, for those who want to try their own homebrew conversion haven't there been some instructions along similar lines on the 'net for around 15 years.... did you write these good sir?

http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=conv&page=StarWarsToESB.txt

I must admit I've never got round to it as it's pretty fiddly but it does include the double image + switch hack.

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kdoe,

Don't think Mark has announced any sales yet. Might be worth sending his trade FB account a message to see if he's got the parts in stock though.
 
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