Stop Killing Games debate in Parliament 3 November 16:30

[Davespice]

Hi folks, tomorrow (3 November) is the debate in Parliament about the e-petition relating to the Stop Killing Games movement.

Info here: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2025-0195/

Watch live here:
Edit: It looks like they're not going to show the debate on YouTube now, there's a foreign affairs meeting happening at the same time which they're going to stream instead. However I was able to find an alternative link here: https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bdf91508-c03e-4d2b-b406-da5be8ad6492
Edit 2: It looks like it is actually now available on YouTube:

If you care about preservation of video games please tune in, we want to get the viewing numbers as a high as possible. Please distribute this link as widely as possible!

Cheers!
Dave

 

[kingtreelo]

thought this was something my Nan would have posted about games where you kill people

i think the problem with this is that nobody reads the T&Cs anymore, you aren't actually buying the games anymore, just a license to play them, the internet and digital changed everything for everyone, for the better AND for the worse

my only gripe is that i cant play the doritos game on my xbox 360 anymore, but that was free

 

[Davespice]

It's a bit more complicated than that. The main core argument rests on the assertion that videogames are sold as goods (like books and CDs), but at some later stage the publisher has the ability to take back what they sold. To make the pages of your book go blank.

Nobody is asking for live service games to last forever, but rather that games are given an end of life plan. To responsibly sunset a game, release the server executable so a community could take over hosting for example. All these arguments are set out on here https://www.stopkillinggames.com/faq

Also, here's a good video which explains the problem better than I ever could:

While not about games dying, this is very good at showing the overall character of video game companies in terms of their attitude to monetising players:

 

[big10p]

Heh, from the thread title, I thought this was about banning violent games. Lol

 

[Davespice]

It looks like they might not show it on YouTube now, but there's an alternative link. I edited the OP to insert it.
Edit: Sorry - it will be available on YouTube, link inserted into the OP.

 

[Michael Usmane]

Success in the world of high stakes gambling requires more than just a bit of luck. Professionals often focus on the mathematical edge found in specific games like blackjack where the house advantage can drop below 1 percent with perfect play. You can find detailed breakdowns of these technical advantages at https://bulgariacasinos.online to help refine your personal approach. Statistics show that nearly 66 percent of all gaming activity now happens within the online casino sub sector where variety is greatest. While many players flock to slots with a bonus buy feature others prefer the 15 percent gross revenue tax efficiency that regulated markets offer to operators. This fiscal stability ensures that players in licensed jurisdictions see more reliable payouts over long periods of time. Understanding that 52.5 percent of the most active players fall into the 25 to 34 age bracket suggests a shift toward more analytical and tech savvy wagering styles. Mastering these small percentage shifts is the real secret to staying ahead of the curve in a competitive environment.

It’s great to see this finally getting some traction in Parliament. It really winds me up how we can pay full price for a game only for it to be rendered useless once the servers go dark. Hopefully this puts enough pressure on publishers to actually start providing end-of-life plans for their titles.

 

[Hitesh]

I would like to see a ban on misleading adverts too. "NOT ACTUAL GAMEPLAY".........WTF

 

[Davespice]

Hi folks, okay a lot more has happened since I last posted. Things are looking very positive at this point. Here's a quick recap:

On 23 February the organisers of the EU citizens initiative met with the EU commission to formally hand over the signatures, an informal press conference was held after the meeting with more details.

It was also announced last week that a French consumer rights group have started a lawsuit against Ubisoft over the shutdown of The Crew. This is a significant development.

Also, there is a public hearing in the EU parliament for the SKG citizens initiative being held on 16 April. I am planning to try and attend in person.

Here's the join link for the SKG discord

Join the Stop Killing Games Community Discord Server!

Stop Killing Games community server. Independent server, where the community can track/offer to help the SKG movement. | 4920 members

discord.gg

I'm Davespice in there, cheers 🥂
Dave