What popular game did you dislike?

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Russ J said:
More than welcome to pop over to Leeds to play my SW dude
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Would love to have a blast on a Defender and a Tron myself,been a dogs age since i've even seen either of these in the flesh let alone play the buggers
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I know I've said it before dude, I genuinely would love to do that some time
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One day I would love just to get up in the morning and not feel as though I've got about 23 of the next 24 hours planned out already for me.
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When that day comes, I'll PM you and you'll probably be out.
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tell me about it,the wife always seems to have 'plans' for me on a weekend whilst she's at work
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The offer is always open to you anyway fella
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'East Yorkshire' Hull by any chance ? (Think we've had this conversation before if I remember rightly ?
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wonderbanana said:
2 games that spring to mind for me are Street Fighter 2 and Zelda Ocarina. Especially the latter, it's fecking boring
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Don't start him on Zelda; I remember when the first N64 Zelda came out and the hardcore gamers I knew at work would just not. SHUT. THE. f**k. UP.

Everyone knows that F-Zero was the best N64 title anyway </ducks>
 

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I've come a bit late to this, but...

Never liked any driving games except the really old ones.

Hate Crazy Kong - it's an inferior boot.
Moon Cresta - always thought it was unfair (I'm sh*t at it)
Non speeded up pacman and variants.
Gravitar and Lunar Lander
All fruit machines.
Many more I have forgotten about.
 

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trm said:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Don't start him on Zelda; I remember when the first N64 Zelda came out and the hardcore gamers I knew at work would just not. SHUT. THE. f**k. UP.

Everyone knows that F-Zero was the best N64 title anyway </ducks>

Correct. I also loved 1080 but its not aged well.
 

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I've led a very sheltered life thinking everyone liked SF2, until reading this topic I hadn't even realised there was a loyal band of anti sf2 protesters out there, I hadn't thought about all the hacked cabs & classics destroyed to house another sf2 money maker, I can't be converted as I loved the game but I do understand where they are coming from.

I'm just going to throw one other thing into the pot, I was never a fan of cocktail cabs, I personally preferred to stand/lean against a machine whilst playing, I do think they have a charm now but back in the good old days I was always a cab player
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I remember going into most of the arcades in Blackpool around 1992/1993 and it just being Street Fighter/Virtua Fighter/Tekken/Mortal Kombat in almost every cab. Very few shooters, certainly no classics by that time.

I saw a number of machines just completely b***erdised - I own 9 Electrocoin Goliath's, most, came with 2 player 6-button hack-ins and i've had to really scrape around to find single player panels for the games I want to have.

One of my dedicated's had been hacked to 2 player and has had to be very carefully welded, sanded, sprayed, CPO'd etc.

A friend described being in an arcade and the don't-give-a-toss-if-its-broken-we've-got-your-money cashier came to empty an SF2 machine and about £1k was in it - his comment "we've got to get more of these in here".

It was around this time that op's just stopped caring that joysticks weren't working, buttons were stuck etc, a number of arcades (not all) had shrivelled into the sess-pits they were advertised as with graffiti on cabs, knackered controls, half-dead monitors with a colour missing, ash-trays brimming over and some gnarly change booth person sat at the back doling out change for the cycle of emptying the cash-boxes.

I've seen some fights start over nothing because the of testosterone brewing playing the one-on-one fighting games.

Its easy to say that SF2 killed the arcades - it didn't, me and stevearcade have had that argument out already in the past (and I respect his thoughts even though we disagree) and I don't think it did specifically kill it but it was just a part of a circular decline and its easy to recognise it as part of a turning point.

A lot of UK arcades died because the people that played in them in the 80's heyday simply got older and started doing more boring grown up sensible stuff like jobs, drinking, girlfriends and kids.

I'll join your loathing of cocktail cabs though; its not a gaming position looking down directly on the machine for a game that's supposed to be in front of you, sunlight glaring off the glass, controls at angles your hands were never meant to play games in. Cocktail cabs were an invention for the bar scene IMHO, somewhere to put your beer on. Most guys I talk to these days, when I mention the arcade machines, the only thing they say is "yeah, I remember those table ones that had space invaders in the pub" - maybe uprights were seen as a kids thing and cocktail tables with beer spilt on them and an overbrimming smelly ashtray and half of the last occupants pie and peas were seen as more grown up.

Just some random meanderings on the subject...
 

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virtvic said:
I've come a bit late to this, but...

Never liked any driving games except the really old ones.

Hate Crazy Kong - it's an inferior boot.
Moon Cresta - always thought it was unfair (I'm sh*t at it)
Non speeded up pacman and variants.
Gravitar and Lunar Lander
All fruit machines.
Many more I have forgotten about.

Gravitar!!! LIES!!!
 

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RGP said:
I remember going into most of the arcades in Blackpool around 1992/1993 and it just being Street Fighter/Virtua Fighter/Tekken/Mortal Kombat in almost every cab. Very few shooters, certainly no classics by that time.

I saw a number of machines just completely b***erdised - I own 9 Electrocoin Goliath's, most, came with 2 player 6-button hack-ins and i've had to really scrape around to find single player panels for the games I want to have.

One of my dedicated's had been hacked to 2 player and has had to be very carefully welded, sanded, sprayed, CPO'd etc.

A friend described being in an arcade and the don't-give-a-toss-if-its-broken-we've-got-your-money cashier came to empty an SF2 machine and about £1k was in it - his comment "we've got to get more of these in here".

It was around this time that op's just stopped caring that joysticks weren't working, buttons were stuck etc, a number of arcades (not all) had shrivelled into the sess-pits they were advertised as with graffiti on cabs, knackered controls, half-dead monitors with a colour missing, ash-trays brimming over and some gnarly change booth person sat at the back doling out change for the cycle of emptying the cash-boxes.

I've seen some fights start over nothing because the of testosterone brewing playing the one-on-one fighting games.

Its easy to say that SF2 killed the arcades - it didn't, me and stevearcade have had that argument out already in the past (and I respect his thoughts even though we disagree) and I don't think it did specifically kill it but it was just a part of a circular decline and its easy to recognise it as part of a turning point.

A lot of UK arcades died because the people that played in them in the 80's heyday simply got older and started doing more boring grown up sensible stuff like jobs, drinking, girlfriends and kids.

I'll join your loathing of cocktail cabs though; its not a gaming position looking down directly on the machine for a game that's supposed to be in front of you, sunlight glaring off the glass, controls at angles your hands were never meant to play games in. Cocktail cabs were an invention for the bar scene IMHO, somewhere to put your beer on. Most guys I talk to these days, when I mention the arcade machines, the only thing they say is "yeah, I remember those table ones that had space invaders in the pub" - maybe uprights were seen as a kids thing and cocktail tables with beer spilt on them and an overbrimming smelly ashtray and half of the last occupants pie and peas were seen as more grown up.

Just some random meanderings on the subject...

Interesting reading, like you said there are probably quite a few factors in the demise of the UK arcade (as we remember them) I've always held the fact the home consoles power increased to more than the actual arcade machines as another reason, teens of the 90's probably never saw the arcade attraction like we did as they had their PS1's, especially if they were becoming run down, I was once involved in a skirmish in a Blackpool arcade in the early 90's & it isnt nice, you go in with the intention of playing some games, not expecting for someone to try robbing your mate.

So did arcades in the USA & other parts of Europe go downhill at the same time? I'm just wondering why they seemed to last longer in Japan, that kind of makes my view that the rise of the home console killed them redundant.

Cocktail cab gaming for me was very sparse, a seedy cafe had some in, its probably the trauma of being in such a dodgy place aged about 8 or 9 rather than the actual cocktail cabs that has tainted my memories of them
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Alpha1 said:
Never found Pacman interesting.

Wasn't Pacman the first cab you ever bought though Oliver?? paying the price of its takings the year before if I remember correctly, then your slippery slope into hording started!
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Personally I've never really enjoyed the following:

Space Harrier

Hard Drivin

Defender
 

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Sorry we're straying slightly off-topic here.

Blackpool had a bad image for a number of years where what you experienced happened - not extensively but certainly more than sporadically. I think some of it was the huge sudden invasion of gambling machines and with Blackpool having a seasonal job market in the main, money and financial issues are abound. I lived there from 99-04 - it was like a dream i'd waited for all my life but it was just a decade too late. I quickly found out exactly how much unemployment and slum areas out of the bright lights sea front there was. Endless stag/hen parties and the invasions of the various groups thinking it was tenerife on a budget barfing everywhere on a Fri/Sat night was a bit of a put-off. Young Farmer groups just looking for a fight and the betting sport of seeing how quick someone would get chucked out of The Tower Lounge on a Saturday afternoon when it's £1/pint until 4pm (conveniently co-inciding with most guest house check-in times). Usually it was about 1:15pm the first couple of brawlers would be chucked out the back door by the doormen.

I'm hoping stevearcade will join in again here briefly about Japan arcades as he had a trip there last year and would have a better perspective on why they're still popular, I think it's a culture thing.

Folklore has the US arcades dying out en-masse after the great video game crash of 83. When we say demise in the context of the USA, we're talking more about the small arcades that were in every town, mall, 7-11 etc etc - the UK predominantly had arcades at holiday destinations like the coastal areas - even though there were arcades in towns there wasn't as much of it IMHO.

UK arcades I think lasted way longer because of this and the games stayed in them longer as well - I stopped frequently going to Blackpool around 88/89 and almost completely stopped around 94. The monstrous multi-player sit-down games were just such a turn off for me. Around 96/97 Blackpool Pleasure Beach had a classics arcade in the middle of the park - where the spinning gravity wheel was - Track & Field, Star Wars, Galaxian 3 and a row of Blue Taito Space Invader machines.

Anyway, back to topic, i've just remembered a couple of really hated games that i'm glad couldn't be converted to anything and hopefully i'll never be in the same room as with my backpack of C-4 and detonators:

WEC LeMans 24 - game good, cockpit useless - just spins you round constantly.

Galaxy Force 2 - All style and no real content - glitzy rail shooter trying to be a modern Space Harrier.

That stupid horse racing dual-screen game - you don't want to see certain people riding one of these - especially someone who maybe likes cake quite a bit!

I have more but it's someone else's turn now.
 
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Bensonrad said:
Alpha1 said:
Never found Pacman interesting.

Wasn't Pacman the first cab you ever bought though Oliver??

PAC was also the first cab I purchased hence my screen name. The cab never actually has a PAC pcb in it though, it's now my mrs cab and it's fully loaded with Ms PAC-MAN
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