Window screen wiper motors push tray.

[Shoryu-stu]

hi guys,just a quick one,would it be possible to use window screen wiper motors for 2p pusher tray?tnx.

 

[Fantazia2]

Possibly they might run a bit quick for the tray, think how fast the wipers sweep back and forth on the normal settings on your car and thats how quickly the tray is going to move in and out, single stroke of your wiper blades back and forth would be the time for the tray to push and return.

You could possibly make them run slower by undervolting them, but once you get slow enough there may not be enough oomph to actually move the tray especially with a load of 2ps on it adding weight, although saying that the weight of the tray with 2p's may add resistance to slow it down.

I like the idea though.

 

[Shoryu-stu]

Possibly they might run a bit quick for the tray, think how fast the wipers sweep back and forth on the normal settings on your car and thats how quickly the tray is going to move in and out, single stroke of your wiper blades back and forth would be the time for the tray to push and return.

You could possibly make them run slower by undervolting them, but once you get slow enough there may not be enough oomph to actually move the tray especially with a load of 2ps on it adding weight, although saying that the weight of the tray with 2p's may add resistance to slow it down.

I like the idea though.

tnx fantazia2,yeah i was thinking going down the scotch yoke route also,most wiper motors have two sppeds but its getting that sweet spot,its just wipers would have been a bit more cost effective,il have to experiment!

 

[Bods]

That's the key thing to Pusher machines, seen odd ones that have speed control on them which is nice but not many

Motors in some of them are massive heavy things, Parvalux ones like this, was quite noisy too, tend to be in the later machines though, Whittakers stuff had smaller motors than those

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204775314815

 

[TheDaddy]

Few issues I see , Not as I have tried but :-

1) Car batteries are 12v but massive amps (No clue what amps these need)
2) speed
3) These motors are not designed to run for hours at a time so unsure how well they would fair longevity wise.

Overcome those and I suppose should not be an issue ??

Dave.

Just found this , I doubt you will get a 12v reg that will touch that :-

 

[John Bennett]

I'd have imagined it wouldn't work well - this is an induction motor trying to drive to 50Hz/1350rpm:

Pusher Motor for Harry Levy Pushers - Harry Levy Spares

Replacement motor for the Parvalux motor used in Harry Levy Pusher machines. Specification:25W 220V 0.07A 1o50 Hz 1350r/min 5.0uF/450VClass B IP20 S2-15min If you require a spare part that is not listed, please get in touch via email at help@maxxgrab.com or call us on 01507 441144.

maxxgrab.com

And it's an internal gearbox to get the torque right for the application. 25W is the continual rating, not the peak.

I wouldn't fancy a DC motor straining it's nuts off with no speed loop to regulate it. I also can't remember if windscreen motors handle the back/forth mechanically via the gearbox or electronically.

 

[Bods]

This is was craziest pusher machine I had

12v motor and did seem a bit under powered really

 

[69er]

I assume this is for a self build pusher you need a mains 240v motor geared to approx 12 rpm like the one below by crouzet but no longer easy to get hold of
It requires firm fixing to the lower shelf and an upward spindle of about 8mm to fit a cam like here too
The length of the cam determines the travel stroke from all way forward to all the way back . The cam is capped with a 3cm bearing which runs in a horizontal channel to prevent wear or squeaking .

This one is from a slower application not a pusher but same design the length of cam and height for top drawer need to be calculated

Finally you need a plastic vein under the edge of the drawer to prevent a gap to allow any coins to go under

Also on the front edge you need an angled riser to build up coins and stops them falling off by themselves and decent lose holes each side (ideally adjustable)

 

[Shoryu-stu]

That's the key thing to Pusher machines, seen odd ones that have speed control on them which is nice but not many

Motors in some of them are massive heavy things, Parvalux ones like this, was quite noisy too, tend to be in the later machines though, Whittakers stuff had smaller motors than those

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204775314815

tnx bods,seen them parvalux motors(they beasty things)bit too pricey for what i intended as this was just gonna be a dry run build,before i decide on full build and keepsies.

 

[Shoryu-stu]

I assume this is for a self build pusher you need a mains 240v motor geared to approx 12 rpm like the one below by crouzet but no longer easy to get hold of
It requires firm fixing to the lower shelf and an upward spindle of about 8mm to fit a cam like here too
The length of the cam determines the travel stroke from all way forward to all the way back . The cam is capped with a 3cm bearing which runs in a horizontal channel to prevent wear or squeaking .

This one is from a slower application not a pusher but same design the length of cam and height for top drawer need to be calculated

Finally you need a plastic vein under the edge of the drawer to prevent a gap to allow any coins to go under

Also on the front edge you need an angled riser to build up coins and stops them falling off by themselves and decent lose holes each side (ideally adjustable)

Looks like its gonna be a lot of work for me then(YAY)

 

[Bods]

I assume this is for a self build pusher you need a mains 240v motor geared to approx 12 rpm like the one below by crouzet but no longer easy to get hold of
It requires firm fixing to the lower shelf and an upward spindle of about 8mm to fit a cam like here too
The length of the cam determines the travel stroke from all way forward to all the way back . The cam is capped with a 3cm bearing which runs in a horizontal channel to prevent wear or squeaking .

This one is from a slower application not a pusher but same design the length of cam and height for top drawer need to be calculated

Finally you need a plastic vein under the edge of the drawer to prevent a gap to allow any coins to go under

Also on the front edge you need an angled riser to build up coins and stops them falling off by themselves and decent lose holes each side (ideally adjustable)

That's like the ones I was thinking of, like in my Treasure Bay one

 

[Bods]

 

[69er]

Looks like its gonna be a lot of work for me then(YAY)

Exactly like bods has pictured above 😃

You really need to study one at the seaside to see those details especially the vein as it allows too for slight ride in the height of the drawer

Tip… if it pays out too much in the middle of the bed you can insert a domed screw in the centre of the bed . The coins ride over it but next coin goes under previous one so piles them a few coins deep as does the front edge riser.

Tho heavier coin piles in the middle make more coin go sideways towards the lose holes

The pins in the back drop board are usually 3mm roll pins . The round pins with a slot in one side available at most screw / nut n bolt stockists positioned so the coins don’t jam on the way down faced over with a Perspex screen with a gap at the bottom just a bit less than the diameter of the type of coin used (watch tipping point on tv for that )

Just too make it more work it’s best to have a steel or Formica tough smooth bed on both levels with any screws fully countersunk to not interfere with coins or movement

 

[Shoryu-stu]

Bloody hell.lots of responses from you guys,tnx for all the input,lots of ground to cover,gonna b a long winter for me.

 

[Bods]

the picture on the underside of the pusher plate, see the gap between the stainless steel front, it has 2 strips of perspex that sit in there to slide over stainless bed, then as same at bottom of coin pinboard that sit on top of push plate so it has no gaps

 

[Bods]

At home there not so much fun as in arcade, most of them are boring but its better if it has Bonus Feature, like this Twin Treasure Bay I had which has leds that go around and if you get coin down centre to trigger switch which ever number it stops on it pays out extra 2ps to value but most of the bonus stuff was removed

Other older one I have should work from the change slot at top, you can put 10p in and get 5x 2ps, that should auto fill bonus tube with 10p and if coin drops down centre it should drop 10p coin on playfield, all the parts from change part missing again and someone was putting tokens in the tube instead

Most pushers i've had were hacked up, parts missing, parts not working, general state apart from odd one but wern't best quaility compared to Whittakers pushers

I sold the Twin one when I got Single Treasure Bay, again Bonus feature all removed, plastics broken, paid about £5/600 as well but I kept Bonus parts from the twin as it didn't work on both sides and payout solenoid was missing so I have all parts to get mine fully working with the noises when coins dropped in and Bonus payout

 

[69er]

At home there not so much fun as in arcade,

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Love the old dock master cranes better than the teddy grabs but just need grippable sweets or novelties cheap enough for the credit price

Nice looker there in the picture we had a few over the years even the older 1930s merchantman oak cabinet ones too .. some nasty mains voltage in them tho ☠️🥵

 

[Bods]

When we used to be on Holiday in the arcades we would play the Mechnical shooting games, Wheel Em In, 2p Pushers and it was these older type cranes I remember, don't think I ever played later type, and then the Lucky eggs and Parrot machines outside and the kids rides like this

Wish I'd started looking for things like this sooner on ebay, this one was on 2009 and didn't even function