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Update time!

I decided to have a go (following a little encouragement from Mitchell Gant!) at the dreaded life threatening Philips Laserdisc mirror fix outlined here:

http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/tech/docs/firefox/fix.asp

I have 2 players that I am testing thanks to Alpha1 - one spins up and just....spins and spins....and spins. The other spins up but then makes a telltale (I'm told) noise that means it's trying to lock onto the disc with the laser but failing. This was the machine that was selected for the mirror fix as it was felt it was the most likely to work afterwards.

After dismantling the player the lens assembly was removed and (with more help from Mitchell) the mirrors removed.

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You can see that I've marked up accordingly as per the repair guide linked above. Even now you can see that one of the magnets under the mirror has slipped and is 'peeping' out of the side. This is catching on the casing and preventing the mirror from pivoting correctly. The status of the other magnet was unknown at this stage.

Upon removing the mirror from the casing, it's is clear what has happened here; one magnet has slipped and the other has fallen off entirely.

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The remaining magnet will need to come off, the whole assembly cleaned to remove the old glue and both magnets glued back on in the correct places.

Here is the first one done. I had to nearly 'get the mallet' more times than I care to mention just to get this far!!
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The guide is really excellent and easy to follow; it's just very, very fiddly. Shaky hands need not apply!

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...and the second magnet on. The photo makes it look like the magnets are not flush / straight to the side edges but they are perfectly done - I blame my crappy iPhone 4s camera! This whole process, just to get this far in a few photos takes about 4 hours by the way
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The mirror assemblies are now back in their casings and ready to install back into the player. They both pivot freely as they should.
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More to come!

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Ah, it's been some time since I did one of these. I recall holding the magnets in place whilst the glue cured really took some patience although there is no doubt a clamping method I didn't risk it. So... any new tips for aligning the mirrors after reinstallation or are you just going to squint with one eye closed and pray for the best?
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The best idea I could come up with at the time was to point a video camera at the mirrors and watch on a remote monitor to ascertain which way they were trying to pivot.
 

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If you get stuck there were at least two LD players left behind at Alpha1's barn raid last weekend (and I'm sure I saw Forcefulfil holding a couple of discs, too).
 

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karlcdoe said:
So... any new tips for aligning the mirrors after reinstallation or are you just going to squint with one eye closed and pray for the best?
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Not yet! I was thinking something similar - I have a hi-def webcam on a 10 metre USB extension cable (that I use for recording high scores etc) - it's small enough to be well placed in the player but (as you say) the feed can be viewed remotely.
 

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I'll be watching out for updates with some interest, I think it was the alignment stage that bored me the most, go with the guide suggestion of using an alternative disc during alignment or you'll be so sick of it you won't want to play the game
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As regards players/discs being potentially left behind at the barn raid
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Did nobody think to rescue them or did the op want ££££ for them?
 

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Ordyne said:
I could do with a couple of LD-V1000 / LD-V1001's if anyone snagged any
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I have one albeit still attached to a working Astron Belt cab which will ultimately be up for sale but I presume you are jigging up a US Dragons Lair or similar.
 

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karlcdoe said:
I have one albeit still attached to a working Astron Belt cab which will ultimately be up for sale but I presume you are jigging up a US Dragons Lair or similar.

I want them for Astron Belt & Galaxy Force cabinets I have.
 

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Both mirrors back in the assembly, cleaned and cabling tied off
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Now the fun begins....

Heading over to Mitchell Gant's this afternoon to put it all back together...

Update to follow
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Jodo said:
Both mirrors back in the assembly, cleaned and cabling tied off
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Now the fun begins....

Heading over to Mitchell Gant's this afternoon to put it all back together...

Update to follow
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Fingers and toes crossed for you mate
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I can only say, pardon my French, FOOKINELLL!!!!!!!!!

Phil seems to have done a perfect job with the mirror repair, got a lock on the disc pretty much immediately on first power on.

My test disc has a lot of laser rot which is why there are speckles all over the video picture.

It did not play properly though, just played a short little loop. This turned out to be the slide motor that is faulty, so a quick swap with one of my dead players and it's playing perfectly!!!

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