Standing TVs Vertically

[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Standing TVs Vertically
Hi

I'm going to buy a 25" Panasonic tv to use with my supergun. Up until now I've avoided getting any vertical games, but as I've been banging on about Super Space Invaders 91, I thought I had better ask.

Other than making sure it doesn't fall over, is there any other danger in using a tv vertically ?

I've gone for a 25" because my eyesight isn't that good, but would a smaller screen size be safer.

All the best,

Keith.

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:35:46 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi
>
>I'm going to buy a 25" Panasonic tv to use with my supergun. Up until now I've avoided getting any vertical games, but as I've been banging on about Super Space Invaders 91, I thought I had better ask.

>
>Other than making sure it doesn't fall over, is there any other danger in using a tv vertically ?
>
>I've gone for a 25" because my eyesight isn't that good, but would a smaller screen size be safer.

A lot of people seem to think it's a bad idea, but I use an old Amstrad monitor from a CPC6128 on its
side quite a lot, (the CPC monitor is basically one of their portable TVs with control panel and tuner hardware removed so far as I can tell). The only thing I find is that the colour goes a bit strange, but if I lay a magnet on the side uppermost, it pulls the beams back just right If it's used like this for a few hours, and then put back in the normal position, the colour eventually goes back to normal (few minutes). I wouldn't do it with my main TV though...

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
scot-@quick-silver.demon.co.uk (scott porter) wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ukvac/?start=3624
> On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:35:46 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I'm going to buy a 25" Panasonic tv to use with my supergun. Up
until now I've avoided getting any vertical games, but as I've been
banging on about Super Space Invaders 91, I thought I had better ask.
> >
> >Other than making sure it doesn't fall over, is there any other
danger in using a tv vertically ?
> >
> >I've gone for a 25" because my eyesight isn't that good, but would a
smaller screen size be safer.
>
> A lot of people seem to think it's a bad idea, but I use an old
Amstrad monitor from a CPC6128 on its
> side quite a lot, (the CPC monitor is basically one of their portable
TVs with control panel and tuner hardware removed so far as I can
tell). The only thing I find is that the colour goes a bit strange, but
if I lay a magnet on the side uppermost, it pulls the beams back just
right If it's used like this for a few hours, and then put back in
the normal position, the colour eventually goes back to normal (few
minutes). I wouldn't do it with my main TV though...
>
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DO NOT stand your TV on its side, they are not built for it, you stand
a chance of it overheating and causing a fire and a very real
possibility of breaking your TV. If your that desperate to have a
rotating screen then buy a 2nd hand arcade monitor and put it in a box,
Wells Gardeners use straight main, Hantarax need 240 and 120, I got a
20" Hantarax from arcade heaven for £30 I think Arcade warehouse also
sell off cheap monitors.

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically

> but if I lay a magnet on the side uppermost, it pulls the beams back just
> right
>
>
hehe good old Gravity. we brought a job lot of cheap SVGA monitors
unfortunately they were designed for another contry so we had to peel the
magnets from the back of the tube and realign them for use in the UK!

Chris

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[MrMish]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
> A lot of people seem to think it's a bad idea, but I use an old Amstrad monitor from a CPC6128 on its
> side quite a lot, (the CPC monitor is basically one of their portable TVs with control panel and tuner hardware removed so far as I can tell).

Wow, I never knew that, but thinking back it's kinda obvious - after
the CPC had been out for a year or so Amstrad released the 'TV-Tuner'
add-on! Which as the name implied, was an expensive way to watch TV
on your monitor (I believe it cost 70-100 pounds).

I still have an Amstrad 'green screen' monitor... Not much for use
for arcade games there (or anything else).

Bryan

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
Thanks for the replies. Looks like it's not a good idea.

I've been offered a 26" cab but it would be too big to get up my stairs.
Can anyone tell me the average size (width/depth) of a 20" cab. Also which has the easiest monitor rotation, ie one where I won't electrocute myself doing it.

I've seen posts on RGVAC about discharging monitors, is that something I would have to do.

All the best,

Keith.

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[evo666]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
Going back into the realms of ancient (computer) history, I have a
Radio Shack TRS-80 green Screen Monitor, that works a treat on my space
invaders boards when placed on it's side, and has done for getting on for 20
years....

Mark.

>I still have an Amstrad 'green screen' monitor... Not much for use
>for arcade games there (or anything else).

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[John Bennett]

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keith priestley <keit-@abbmu.u-net.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for the replies. Looks like it's not a good idea.
>
> I've been offered a 26" cab but it would be too big to get up my
stairs.
> Can anyone tell me the average size (width/depth) of a 20" cab. Also
which has the easiest monitor rotation, ie one where I won't
electrocute myself doing it.
>
> I've seen posts on RGVAC about discharging monitors, is that
something I would have to do.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Keith.
>

a 20" cab is around 100-150kgs, around 5 1/2 ft tall and 2ft square.
The monitors usually rotate quite easily, a couple of screws to undo
and then just rotate the screen, be careful though as the wires on the
back of the tube can wrap around the adjusters and move em all over the
place, so make sure nothing is around the tube before you start. You
wont have to discarge your screen, you only need to do this if for some
reason you are seperating the tube from the monitor board, like you
need to replace the LOPT, somthing you should really leave to the pro's
!. Beware it all starts with just 1 cab, then they seem to multiply, I
now have 3 uprights 1 table and I am picking up an Outrun at the
weekend.

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
Hi David,

Thanks very much for all the info, I have now definitely decided on a 20" cab.
I think I will try Chris Jackson at the Arcade Warehouse, he is up here in the north I think.
I am quite sure you are right about the cabs multiplying, it's lucky that my wife is as interested in video games as I am.

All the best

Keith

> a 20" cab is around 100-150kgs, around 5 1/2 ft tall and 2ft square.
> The monitors usually rotate quite easily, a couple of screws to undo
> and then just rotate the screen, be careful though as the wires on the
> back of the tube can wrap around the adjusters and move em all over the
> place, so make sure nothing is around the tube before you start. You
> wont have to discarge your screen, you only need to do this if for some
> reason you are seperating the tube from the monitor board, like you
> need to replace the LOPT, somthing you should really leave to the pro's
> !. Beware it all starts with just 1 cab, then they seem to multiply, I
> now have 3 uprights 1 table and I am picking up an Outrun at the
> weekend.

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[stokesay_2000]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
In message <yam7996.2552.2015829592@send.mail.u-net.com>, Keith
Priestley <keith@abbmu.u-net.com> writes

<snip>

>I am quite sure you are right about the cabs multiplying, it's lucky that my
>wife is as interested in video games as I am.

That's simple not fair! I have to fight tooth and nail every bit of
extra space.

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Steve.

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[zepromz]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
At 18:51 22/11/99 +0000, Keith wrote:
>Thanks for the replies. Looks like it's not a good idea.
>I've been offered a 26" cab but it would be too big to get up my stairs.
>Can anyone tell me the average size (width/depth) of a 20" cab. Also
>which has the easiest monitor rotation, ie one where I won't electrocute
>myself doing it. I've seen posts on RGVAC about discharging monitors,
>is that something I would have to do.

Are you any good at woodwork? Reason I ask is if the answer is YES, then
why dont you buy a used 20" monitor and an isolation transformer from an
operator, then build a box for it?
That way, you get a monitor thats built for rotating, and you can make the
box any design you feel like, to match your decor, or to facilitate movement
round the room etc. Make up a snazzy back panel with Europlug (kettle lead)
socket, fuse, and your favourite flavour of video connectors, and your away.
Either that, or grab a generic rotating 20" cab and saw it in half.
Just a thought, if you haven't got the room for a full cab...

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[dz1n3]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
It is a good job your wife is interested in Video Games, Mine left me
recentley because i came home with a Hunchback Olympics board, wired the
thing up into the cab, this was at the same time she was packing her stuff
together, started playing the game and she sort of walked/stormed out,
havn't seen her since. If she came home now she would flip, theres laods of
games all around the place... hehe. So now i can buy / play games when ever
i like.

Mike if your reading this, would like to at somepiont get HO in mame as a
reminder of her (NOT)!

Darren.

 

[Macro]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
> Mike if your reading this, would like to at somepiont get HO
> in mame as a reminder of her (NOT)!

Well, you got Herbie at the olympics (close isn't it ?)

I will have another crack at Hunchy Olympics soon - promise (and the CVS
boards) !

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
Hi Darren,

LOL: Sounds like something from a Castlemaine XXXX Advert.

> It is a good job your wife is interested in Video Games, Mine left me
> recentley because i came home with a Hunchback Olympics board, wired the
> thing up into the cab, this was at the same time she was packing her stuff
> together, started playing the game and she sort of walked/stormed out,
> havn't seen her since. If she came home now she would flip, theres laods of
> games all around the place... hehe. So now i can buy / play games when ever
> i like.

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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
If I can't get it up the stairs then sawing it in half is an excellent idea, I certainly hadn't thought of it, thanks.

> Are you any good at woodwork? Reason I ask is if the answer is YES, then
> why dont you buy a used 20" monitor and an isolation transformer from an
> operator, then build a box for it?
> That way, you get a monitor thats built for rotating, and you can make the
> box any design you feel like, to match your decor, or to facilitate movement
> round the room etc. Make up a snazzy back panel with Europlug (kettle lead)
> socket, fuse, and your favourite flavour of video connectors, and your away.
> Either that, or grab a generic rotating 20" cab and saw it in half.
> Just a thought, if you haven't got the room for a full cab...
>
>
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[Macro]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
I moved the PSU board to the top (behind the light) so all wiring was in
the top half. Then cut from the bottom of the control panel to the back
to divide the unit in two. I then fitted some steel plates on the inside
to re-join it. So it comes in half to allow it to be moved up stairs /
through normal sized doors / round corners etc, but re-assemble into the
normal unit when it's in location. The cut is hidden at the front by the
control panel, and doesn't show much at the side - in fact it takes a
while for most people to work out how I got it in the room!

p.s. This is a generic Jamma cabinet - so no side art to spoil!

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[Dave2084]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
At 09:03 am 22 11 1999, you wrote:
>DO NOT stand your TV on its side, they are not built for it, you stand
>a chance of it overheating and causing a fire and a very real
>possibility of breaking your TV.

Will my CUB monitor be OK on its side????

I'm just putting a SINISTAR to JAMMA adaptor together now I have completed
my Supergun ... I had planned to rotate it so the picture is OK ... I'm not
so sure now!

Anyone got their 10p worth on rotating a CUB?
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[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
Should be ok Dave as I've seen a few cabs with cub monitors in them. My
advice would be to make sure the monitor is off when you rotate it -
hence the de-gaus coil should activate when its turned back on thus
removing any colour wash that is caused by rotation.

With regards to the monitor physically withstanding it - there bomb
proof anyways!!

Regards

Matt

In message <4.2.2.19991124163656.00a6a100@mail.u-net.com>, Dave Langley
<dave@thepubagain.u-net.com> writes
>At 09:03 am 22 11 1999, you wrote:
>>DO NOT stand your TV on its side, they are not built for it, you stand
>>a chance of it overheating and causing a fire and a very real
>>possibility of breaking your TV.
>
>Will my CUB monitor be OK on its side????
>
>I'm just putting a SINISTAR to JAMMA adaptor together now I have completed
>my Supergun ... I had planned to rotate it so the picture is OK ... I'm not
>so sure now!
>
>Anyone got their 10p worth on rotating a CUB?
>Dave Langley
>
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[d-type]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
Regarding all this standing monitors/telly's on their side chatter - Isn't
it just a case of heat build up? (i.e. how to stop it?) Electric fields
don't care much about gravity, do they? If you want to use it vertically,
surely you can just drill some holes in the top and bottom to let the air
through?

Perhaps I'm missing something?

Phillip Eaton
phil@pjeaton.demon.co.uk

 

[John Bennett]

[ukvac] Re: Standing TVs Vertically
My cub goes perculiar when stood on it's side the pictues solid enough but
the "vertical" edges become tinged with green to a depth of 2-3" into the
picture.

Chris
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>
> At 09:03 am 22 11 1999, you wrote:
> >DO NOT stand your TV on its side, they are not built for it, you stand
> >a chance of it overheating and causing a fire and a very real
> >possibility of breaking your TV.
>
> Will my CUB monitor be OK on its side????
>
> I'm just putting a SINISTAR to JAMMA adaptor together now I have completed
>
> my Supergun ... I had planned to rotate it so the picture is OK ... I'm
> not
> so sure now!
>
> Anyone got their 10p worth on rotating a CUB?
> Dave Langley
>
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