EBay Win Super Monaco GP - Resolved

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Yeah, poor form. Like others, I've had to sell for a much lower price than expected, as well as getting a lot more for some things, than expected. Auctions are a bit of a gamble for buyers and sellers. Backing out after the hammer comes down is as bad as welching on a bet IMO.
 

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Happens all the time. I never feel I own something until it is in my hands. Last year I won a nice working Turtles cab for £1100. Messaged they guy about collection. After a delay he said he needed it gone in 24hours as he was leaving the country forever. Needless to say I couldn't arrange a collection. I was super excited to get the cab too so it just makes you really depressed.
 

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There's every chance this applies just about everywhere nowadays but the retro scene seems to have some of the flakiest characters going. I've only really been in it a couple of years but already have firsthand experience of scams, bait-and-switches, egregious price-gouging, aborted sales and stuff generally being missold. It's reached a point where if someone has any kind of inventory of stuff I always expect the worst. Conversely, I've bought from folks on here who've really gone the extra mile, too. What a weird hobby.
 

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I agree with all the above, he welched on it and it's very shitty. But hey, he fucked up, what else can you say? Welching on a bet is much worse as the other person has staked a risk, but I've forgiven for this before.

There's also the chance "something came up", "something broke", "something not described was discovered" or "something died". If he hasn't reached out to you already then this is the only type of explanation you'd ever get, and you can't honestly argue it by assumption alone.

I think ebay suspend accounts that abuse cancellations but allow an odd one.

I've learned not to use auctions unless I need something gone asap or I'm selling something popular that'll definitely have multiple bidders. I've always honoured final prices (as we would all say) but then again the most I feel I've fucked up on is a couple of hundred, debatably. I have no idea what this cab is worth but if I felt I'd messed up so badly that I'd lost say, a grand, then that'd take some very strong integrity to cancel the family holiday for ebay bloke.

Reserves annoy me too tbh. Just put the starting price at the minimum and then we all know where we stand without wasting time.
 
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BIN are a waste of time, as nobody uses them on high value items. Everybody looks at the bin price, and when it's still there 3 days later, people think "Why is nobody else buying it?"

Reserves put people off, because they are thinking "He wants a fortune for it" so people don't bid.

Ebay charge a fortune to put a reserve price on, and I suppose some people just "Gamble" that the item they have will fetch a decent amount. Trouble is people are looking for the cheapest deal they can get.

Ebay is just full of "Watchers" now with no intention of bidding.
 

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BIN are a waste of time, as nobody uses them on high value items. Everybody looks at the bin price, and when it's still there 3 days later, people think "Why is nobody else buying it?"
That's a good point, and this is a factor, BINs can sometimes miss potential, but they're not a waste of time. After a fair bit of trial and error I've found that overall they work better for me. Your mileage may vary obviously.

Sometimes people get carried away in auction and bid above a BIN price elsewhere, but sometimes those people don't actually pay. I got to the point where I'd dread the outcome after an auction went surprisingly high. 0 feedback winners shit-bidding or pulling return scams. This is so frequent in high ending auctions. Completed listings don't show you that, and they can't be taken too seriously.

Almost exclusively now I use Buy it Now, immediate payment required, no offers (offers just beg people to delay purchase, start a time consuming barter and then often never return). I got sick of auction winners (if not outright trying to scam me, then) changing their minds or asking for time then disappearing. It happens a lot and when it does it damages your next listing when viewers assume something fishy.

With BIN things sometimes sell fast, sometimes they sit for ages with curious non-buying watchers as you say, but they eventually sell if they're at the "right" price. And most importantly of all, the buyers are forced to actually pay. This is just what works for me and my items (mostly Japanese console games). I think with niche items that only have a handful of watchers at a time, the risk of auction outweighs the potential of luck.
 
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I think most of the time they're people that are doing exactly as I sometimes do. Watching an item to see what it sells for. It's a cheeky memory aid.
 

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This seems to be the way. What are they waiting for...

You send the watchers a good offer and they let it expire.

If you want something, send a message. What's the point of just watching...
I for one, and I bet many others, watch stuff to see where the markets are.

15 members that do that will look like lots of people interested, and that’s not many members.

Another reason which I do it for, is to watch a cab I own or friend owns, to see what it’s worth when similar item is for sale.
 

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I've always been worried my item could sell for something silly like £1 in an auction and I would honour it so that puts me off auctions so I just do Buy it now or best offer. I usually set the buy it now price quite high but allow offers at any price as then if someone comes in low we can exchange counter offers until we find a price that suits us both.

Sorry you got shafted, I've had it happen to me with a console. As soon as it ended at a really low price he messaged to say it had just broke when he was testing it.
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before but what is your own feedback like? Could be the seller just didn't want to sell to you for certain reasons. (I don't know what your feedback is actually like, it could be 50,000 positive for all I know but that is sometimes the reason a seller pulls out of a sale, that or they have been inundated with questions with someone and thinks they may be a pain when they get the item and it isn't in 100% condition.)
 
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