F355 Restoration

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Thanks to a heads-up from AndyGeezer, I picked up a couple of well loved F355's this week. Initially, I figured I'd just rob the good bits for my existing OR2 cabs. However, Outrun2 & Vamino convinced me I should at least try and restore one of them given they are reasonably complete.

A few pictures when they first arrived:

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I had to strip the pair of them down to store them...

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Nice surprise to find that all of the innards were still there. No idea at this point what does and doesn't work but hopefully there are enough working parts to make one good one.

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I've now stripped the machines down to their bases. Once I've removed everything out of the better base I'll get all the metalwork dropped off to the powder coaters. Hopefully in around 10 days I'll have some nice shiny metalwork back :)

In the meantime, I decided to start stripping down the dashes to clean them up. I already had two sets of newly powder coated M3 dash parts - perfect for transplanting the F355 dash onto. Both dash plastics have fag burns (to be expected). One is reasonable, the other is pretty knackered. Time for a quick strip and clean...

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Annoyingly, the only thing that stopped me getting this finished tonight were the two tiny little grub screws on the steering shaft that hold on the cog that drives the other cog attached to the potentiometer. I'll have to drill the grub screws out and re-tap another hole. Frustrating!

Also tried the motherboards hooked up to my Naomi. Seems one of them is certainly cheesed...

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I'll add some more pictures when I strip out the base to go to the powder coaters. Watch this space!

 

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I'm glad you are trying to get at least 1 of them up and running mate.
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There's no other arcade racer like F355, it's got a steep learning curve but once you get the hang of playing it's a lovely game to just drive around the tracks. I really do love my cab a lot.
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Looking forward to see how you get on.
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Nice to see one of these getting restored. It's going to be a rare cab in a few years as all seem to be converted to OutRun 2.
 

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muddymusic said:
Nice to see one of these getting restored. It's going to be a rare cab in a few years as all seem to be converted to OutRun 2.

Don't suppose you have any artwork for F355? If not, I can scan the art on there but its a little worse for wear!
 

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terminator2k2 said:
hi there, just wandering how the flappy padles fit on the column? would these fit a model 2 dash? just got an idea for my outrun 2 pc version hehe

I'm not sure what the differences are between the Model2 and Model3 dashes. I've taken a few pics of the Paddle shifters. The steering shaft ls effectively hollow with a hole drilled near the steering wheel end for the wires to poke through...

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thanks for the pics, much appreciated....ill have to browse the net aswell now and see if this is do-able....im sure though that this steering column must be only for this cab...could be wrong hehe
 

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stegrey said:
loved F355 on the dreamcast, never seen the pcb for sale do they work with OR2 ffb board?

Not sure that they do work with the OR2 feedback board. The Cab certainly doesn't have an OR2 style feedback board in. Instead it has what I think is a Model 3 board (well two actually).
 

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corn said:
stegrey said:
loved F355 on the dreamcast, never seen the pcb for sale do they work with OR2 ffb board?

Not sure that they do work with the OR2 feedback board. The Cab certainly doesn't have an OR2 style feedback board in. Instead it has what I think is a Model 3 board (well two actually).

:( I will have to try and look into it, got a feeling by the end of this year I'm going to be blocked in with driving cabs lol, I have a scud on the way and ive been looking up sega rally cabs oh god
 

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you can plug and Play a chihiro with outrun2 in a f355 without any Kind of mod! you have ffb and gear-shifter with the pedal-shifter. thats it, so 1:1. yes the f355 has different I/0 pcb and different ffb pcb, but it works. if it works the other way, so a f355 board-set in a original outrun2, no idea if it works, or not....
 

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model2 model3 dash are generaly the same, but m2 has Speaker grills seperatly, and a slightly different looking. m2 has Speakers added to this section.
 

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corn said:
muddymusic said:
Nice to see one of these getting restored. It's going to be a rare cab in a few years as all seem to be converted to OutRun 2.

Don't suppose you have any artwork for F355? If not, I can scan the art on there but its a little worse for wear!
I've got the seat back scanned and on my vector list, I've got f355 2 sides scanned but not 1, although they are very similar, if you've got a partial side you could scan I can use that as a template.
 

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Selina said:
yeah, "There's no other arcade racer like F355"... that could be meant positive or negative !?
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Yep, everyone has their own opinion, I can't tell people what they should like....some people will say it's a 'boring' game, some people will say it's an OK game and other people will say it's an amazing simulator that was ahead of it's time when released in 1999.

Yu Suzuki's aim for F355 was to create a game that pro drivers could beat game enthusiasts, it's a very niche audience so wasn't as popular as other arcade games.
 

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Selina said:
you can plug and Play a chihiro with outrun2 in a f355 without any Kind of mod! you have ffb and gear-shifter with the pedal-shifter. thats it, so 1:1. yes the f355 has different I/0 pcb and different ffb pcb, but it works. if it works the other way, so a f355 board-set in a original outrun2, no idea if it works, or not....

..but you can't run OutRun2SP with FFB with F355 FFB boards - only regular OutRun2.
 

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Selina said:
model2 model3 dash are generaly the same, but m2 has Speaker grills seperatly, and a slightly different looking. m2 has Speakers added to this section.

..but they are very different around the back. Model 2 has motor, two belts, two pots and a clutch. Model 3 has motor, one belt and one pot.
 

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@outrun2: that should be enough,
@Vamino: yes i know the Story behind the f355 game. like you say, not everyones game! i grew up with the middle ´90 sega racer games. there are a few real classics. f355 is even more a Simulator then a game. but still a good Simulator.
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corn said:
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The steering shaft ls effectively hollow with a hole drilled near the steering wheel end for the wires to poke through...

Yes, this is different to the standard Model 3 (and OR2) twin steering shaft - it is unique to F355 I believe. I have a spare F355 shaft if anyone wants to try converting a standard Model 3 dash.

Virtua Racing used paddle shifters but that's not Model 2 or Model 3! But probably closer, if not the same as Model 2)
 
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