John Bennett
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We could’ve made it special again (and last forever).
I’d take anything right now over it having being weighed in and crushed.
I’d take anything right now over it having being weighed in and crushed.
aeroflott said:
AFAIK NVM's staff are not very well versed in arcade tech at all, converted several cabs to LCD, and have had to enlist help from outside sources multiple times (including Arcade Club - I recall at least one of its techs got their deluxe Gunblade NY to an acceptable standard a few years back, when they were still in Nottingham).
Really it shouldn't have been offered to them in the first place, but again, if true, a self-proclaimed "museum" turning down an arcade machine that is well-known to be the last original example of its type in the world is a bit of an insult to what it's about.
Tedward2021-08-22 13:02:28
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aeroflott said:
Totally agree, this isn't an easy task what so ever. You need transformers, you need to align all the PCB's in the correct order. The audio amp needs setting up correctly. Steering will definitely need calibration at this stage. But worst of all, the projectors... Aligning those projectors is a HUGE pain. The technican told me when they removed the old ones and put the new ones in it took them about 5 hours to aligned them perfectly. And that's from a guy with years and years of arcade knowledge. They are a real pain.
If this is the case, that poor machine... that's all i can say really. This isn't just some simple machine you put together like lego. A lot of work and up keep needs to be put in place to keep these going.
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So even hopes of it going to this 'museum' are rather hopeless then? Seems a very sad end to a legendary machine. I wish Arcade Club could have taken it on although i know they didn't have the space for it when i asked them years back to try and get it.
Not sure if this is helping or adding salt to the wounds but I thought i would re-upload my video of when i went to set records on the machine years ago. It shows my very first reaction to seeing one for the first time, the machine in pretty great shape though it had some minor faults. But overall a hell of a lot better than it is now. It even had a windscreen which was commonly broken at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Looks like they removed it for good in the end from that Facebook post.
Also shows a small part of my conversation with the technician on the day who was helping to reset the settings to defaults for the record attempts. He was a great chap and knew literally everything about it. I picked his brains for a good 20 minutes.
Not sure if this is helping or adding salt to the wounds but I thought i would re-upload my video of when i went to set records on the machine years ago. It shows my very first reaction to seeing one for the first time, the machine in pretty great shape though it had some minor faults. But overall a hell of a lot better than it is now. It even had a windscreen which was commonly broken at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Looks like they removed it for good in the end from that Facebook post.
Also shows a small part of my conversation with the technician on the day who was helping to reset the settings to defaults for the record attempts. He was a great chap and knew literally everything about it. I picked his brains for a good 20 minutes.
I haven’t been to the NVM since it moved to Sheffield but back when it was in Nottingham it was always something of an oddity, with strange ideas of what constitutes gaming history. It was also a pretty depressing place from an arcade perspective, with many machines out of action.
Based on how things were in Nottingham I don’t know if they’d have the know-how, financial means, or desire to take on a cab like RR Full Scale. They had an ID cab (ID 2 I think) that Sumo Digital had given them. I’m not sure I ever saw it working.
Maybe things are different in Sheffield though *crosses fingers*Steveylou2021-08-22 16:12:46
Based on how things were in Nottingham I don’t know if they’d have the know-how, financial means, or desire to take on a cab like RR Full Scale. They had an ID cab (ID 2 I think) that Sumo Digital had given them. I’m not sure I ever saw it working.
Maybe things are different in Sheffield though *crosses fingers*Steveylou2021-08-22 16:12:46
u72 said:Tedward said:
The NVM has some very ‘odd’ ideas of what a museum should be
I’ve offered to help them 3 times up to now - with free loans of machines (including an original pong)
Only to be knocked back - it’s a very poor gaming museum
Andy
It was embarrassing enough to see them be part of the "Saving The Arcade World" campaign a few months back, despite them having virtually zero positive contact with anyone in the UK arcade scene, and now this Ridge Racer fiasco makes matters worse. It's a real shame, as lots of this stuff really does need preserving, but they're going about the wrong way in doing that and ultimately not getting any respect whatsoever from the people who actually care...
Steveylou said:
For reasons known only to them, they were modding that cab to run off of Raspberry Pi just as the Nottingham site closed back in 2018, and I don't think it's been seen at all since then. I was there for the opening day at Sheffield, and it certainly wasn't anywhere to be found at that point.
I haven't made a visit since then, not really worth it in the end.
aeroflott said:
I havent visited since it moved from Nottingham but there were some seriously janky machines there when I last went, a Space Invaders running on a raspberry Pi that had really bad input lag, a repro Donkey Kong that was borderline unplayable simply because it had an 8 way stick and a Miss Pac that was set to one life only and would flip upside down for player 2 in a 2P game. They definitely don't have the know-how for anything like an RR full scale.
John Bennett
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Did they even know it was coming their way? I’m not sure what to believe anymore.
K1ngarth3r
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If the machine is outside, can we be doing anything to save what is there?
drokz said:
Not to distract from your brilliant contribution...
But Thats the thing with treble projectors - all the arcade knowledge in the world isn't going to help much because it is nearly unrelated (apart from it being a screen). Ive done this before on a project, and it is a pain for sure. It is only accurate measurements, and your own sight you need to get it right. The 5 hrs is purely used up on trial and error. I bet after 5 hours they were back where they were 1 hr in - been there!
looking at the video - they managed pretty well, but still noticeably off. In theory in can be perfect, but in reality you'll never get them 100%.
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But the whole read is sad - I'd be happy with it emulated. Lucky thing is, with no FFB - rr isn't hard to emulate, just need these damn roms and we can make our own.
I bet the MX5 shells are going up like arcade cabs too!
and if this gets dumped - then mx5 owners club won't know what hit them - when they see the prices inflate (I am suggesting that 100s of people will rush out to build full scale RR's)
Sbdesign2021-08-22 17:42:30
K1ngarth3r said:
As it stands right now, I'm not sure anyone truly knows what's happening/how much remains besides the owner themselves. Mixed messages and stories all over the place, don't know what to believe.
Perhaps it's wishful thinking, but considering they cared enough to produce a fairly accurate recreation of the thing just recently, I wonder if Bandai Namco themselves would be interested in it?
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Tedward said:
Given they threw away all their System 22 equipment about 1 or 2 years ago I'd say it's unlikely. What they built there clearly made them money and appears to be not functional but just the bare minimum for film use. I'm sure if i were to offer Namco enough they would build me something similar, especially if it were for a Netflix series. What I'm getting at is I don't see how a Full Scale machine would make them any money and after all they are a business. They've dropped the Ridge Racer series completely now even for consoles so I really think it's unlikely.
drokz2021-08-22 18:32:54
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Alpha1 said:
I think the likes of Pac Mac etc yeah but they don't have a Ridge Racer Full Scale. They likely have Ridge Racer cabinets though. The Japanese really take care of things so who knows maybe somewhere they may have one in a mall or something. Never say never but from what I've seen there are none.
I would love to be proven wrong though, genuinely. I really hope there is one remaining.
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Alpha1 said:
Me too.
Has there been any news/progress on this? I'm really invested in this now I want to see it live another day. I'm not a Facebook user so I'm just checking I'm not missing anything?
There's nothing to say unfortunately.
I was told by the owner it was being scrapped, he was keeping the PCBs and wouldn't share for ROM dumps and that the videogame museum was getting the plastics and other attraction frontage.
I was told by the owner it was being scrapped, he was keeping the PCBs and wouldn't share for ROM dumps and that the videogame museum was getting the plastics and other attraction frontage.