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Love this thread and some very impressive times gents. Given me some motivation to get my finger out and push for better scores. I've plateaued at almost bang on 3:25, but could easily do better with some consistency and stopping the careless plinks and scrapes.
 

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Yeah, it's great and HB's videos have really helped me improve my times. I've shaved a bit more time off:

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That was in January and I've not got close to it since. I wish there was a quick restart option as i know I've blown it by the third corner on desert!
 

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Good time nik, once you dip below that you will improve.

Sub 23 not far away, slight mistakes are the differences between sub 22 and sub 24

I haven't touched mine fir months as i need to do a full connector recrimp to get stable 5v
 

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It's only on the Model 2 emulator (don't have access to an arcade) but I have this:

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I've been watching runs on YouTube for a while and one person I was curious about (They had a 3'18 run also) I asked them if they were using the secret car (which I never use) and they said no, but after trying out the car and seeing how much it fishtails when you drop to 3rd gear, I could almost be certain that they used it. So when I called them out and asked why would they lie, they just removed the comments.

But anyway, I've seen a 3'15 on there with the normal Celica, so I don't believe in the secret car anyway.
 

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Hurray Banana said:
The timing on model2 is way off. The car moves miles quicker than on the actual machine.

True, i prefer the Saturn version to the model 2 emulator version as far as home versions go. Seems closer to the arcade.

I haven't tried it recently but the ps2 version of Sega rally that came with Sega rally 2006 might have more accurate emulation.
 

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I've spent quite a lot of time on the PS2 version and on an actual machine, it seems almost the same.
Must add that there are 2 revisions on the Model 2 emulator and one is faster than the other, and there is talk about it needing the region set to Japan too.

You can tell if someone has used the Stratos as the high score table displayed doesn't show "championship top 16"
 

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I don't believe they're faster at all although there is a difference in the AI car placement or speed. Don't know if that's an emulation bug because the romset, region or game options don't seem to change it. If they were like the arcade, then I could possibly a get faster time still by bouncing off them but they're not there.

They way I play is basically the same as someone I watched on an arcade machine, same technique, which is different to Hurray's and they were getting 3'18s too. Do anyone of you wall bounce??

I'm most curious about the 3'18'98 posted, which was automatic(?) I really didn't think it was possible to do like that. I also have the same time, but again, MT (normal) Delta with lots of gear shifts and wall bounces.
Shekel2017-04-02 05:20:46
 

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To add, I would like someone to prove (for my own sanity too) that the Model 2 emulator is indeed faster or whatever it is compared to arcade. Mind, it has to be running at 57.5Hz.
 

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That's impressive. I'll try the wall bounces! Maybe the model 2 emulator version just seems faster because it was running at 60hz. But the car placement is definitely off.
 

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Ahh, was wondering if it was that one. That doesn't use the secret car, but he sure seems to drift well when in gear 3.
Here's what the score table should look like if you use it, see the Championship image is missing.
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2huwman said:
That's impressive. I'll try the wall bounces! Maybe the
model 2 emulator version just seems faster because it was running at
60hz. But the car placement is definitely off.
That's all I
think it is and even if the car placement is different, it's not making
anyone any faster, that's just better technique. I've seen the technique of 2 players in this thread so I know why I'm faster.

Smraedis! I don't know if you're asking to see my championship table or not. You can if that would please you, but I have to say this long-winded thing first. Unfortunate for me that it's happened just recently, but at the end of the day these times aren't even that fast anyway so for me it's actually a non-issue.

Right, I'm not sure what's happened lately with my M2 emulator. I think my NVRAM data may be somehow corrupted. I played SR a fair bit recently and have since momentarily quit because no matter what score I get, it's not being saved. The last score I have on the championship table is a 3'18'90 http://i.imgur.com/fMenUH4.jpg. The Time Difference mode (which is quite helpful) isn't working right either, it's not showing split times any more, so this is the other reason. I can only think this may be because I reset the game to quickly get back into it, but even still, some scores are missing like the 3'18'98 which was my first sub-3'19 so that confuses me why it's not there. But anyway, I just screenshot individual times because it's more interesting to me.

Btw, the time johnhughes got was accepted and the championship table wasn't shown. If you play as the secret car, that little top 3-scores is its own thing so doesn't prove which car someone used. But as I said, I don't believe in the secret car.
 

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Oh I'm not accusing you of using the slidy car, I'm just pointing out that you said the person in that video was using it right?
It seems most of my time lost seems to be on the 3rd stage.
 

Shekel

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Oh, no. I get what you mean now. The last video I posted - That was basically my technique. Normal car.

Guess you were asking for this one - Where I called them out but they removed the comments.

Shekel2017-03-26 19:36:16
 

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Well, I decided to start a fresh NVRAM file to fix my problems and start setting times again.

I would love to get a 3'17 time but this 3'18"10 is good enough for me right now. It took ages to get right. Please add it to the first page. While the scores are updated, I really think there should be a distinction between which formats we're using. For a start, MAME is wrong, no one is using that and Smraedis, your time was achieved on a PS2?

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It was done on the PS2 version, I've bettered it slightly since:
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And playing it yesterday at Arcade Club, I bettered my best on a cab:
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