TV Licence, Cancelled Mine

[Bods]

as Chilijoncarne says, the clowns they send round are Salesmen, they have no power at all, don't answer the door or just say no thanks and close it, the more you engage with them the more likely you'll say something and slip up, while I was watching the TV i was happy to pay it but now I just can't stomach the nonsense

I don't know why things pop in my head, was thinking the other month about BBC and Ticking Boxes and that old song was there Little Boxes and if I was better at putting things into words you could rewrite a new version called Ticking Boxes, to be honest the only reason I remember it was when Chubby Brown sang part of it on one of this first Videos, so I thought lets look up the original Lyrics and was like this is already pretty spot on

Song by Malvina Reynolds

Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky
Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes all the same
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same
And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there's doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same
And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same
And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same
There's a pink one and a green one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same

 

[Bods]

I invited him in
Seemed the simplest way to shut him up and it did. I guess they are not used to that. I didn’t have a Tv so nothing to hide.
Trouble is they make a strange assumption that you have watched bbc 1 if you have a Tv.
Even if you only watch Netflix how do you prove it ?

sounds like that old joke 😆

A Jehovah witness was going from house to house looking to talk to people​

He approached a house and saw a man. "Good day" he said "do you have time to discuss, I'm Jehovah witness?"

"Sure" said the man. He let him in the house and they just kept staring at each other until the man asked "so what do you want to talk about?"

Then confused Jehovah witness just said " I don't know, no one has let me in before

 

[Retroman839]

sounds like that old joke 😆

A Jehovah witness was going from house to house looking to talk to people​

He approached a house and saw a man. "Good day" he said "do you have time to discuss, I'm Jehovah witness?"

"Sure" said the man. He let him in the house and they just kept staring at each other until the man asked "so what do you want to talk about?"

Then confused Jehovah witness just said " I don't know, no one has let me in before

We let them in all the time
Lovely people. There are a lot of
Missionary’s from Africa. They do not mean any harm they are just spreading the word. ( some of them, obviously not the religiously insane ones!).

Religious insanity can be a trate of Schizophrenia. Unfortunately I know because a friends dad sufferd from it.
It’s a common illness actually and treatable. Best to avoid these people they can be very dangerous and likely to have mood swings resulting in violent outbursts if they are not being supervised whilst suffering. And deffinatly don’t let these people in your house.
No Vampires either. 🧛‍♀️ Halloween not far away now lots or em about
Bee on your toes carry garlic, and a chalice of holy water and you should be fine.

 

[FMRad10]

Pretty sure building and contents insurance is bullshit too.

Take it from someone that works in insurance. if your place is absolutely destroyed by a fire and razed to the ground, you'll get a brand new house with everything in it and somewhere to live while they build it for you.

It can only seem like bullshit if you never have to make a claim, which I totally get. but the times when something catastrophic happens, and you've got a good policy that covers you, it'll easily pay itself back.

 

[Bods]

Dare I ask, but who's the BBC supposed to be delivering 'woke', 'brainwashing' propaganda on behalf-of?

From my own observations of the last few years, Your 'Caring' Government

Quick google search of "BBC propaganda arm of government" brings up some interesting articles like Nottingham University

The other Channels aren't far behind them either

They only want you to believe one story and that's the official Government Narrative and the BBC, ITV, 4 and 5 are there to push the Official Narrative

The main source of this Official Narrative Ideology are these Think Tanks but who are the Think Tanks working for?

This ones brilliant, when you have BBC that setup BBC Verify I mean, they are the home of Disinformation and lies, this is classic I've just found
BBC Peddles Lies

 

[tin]

I agree (almost) entirely on the licence front, it's outdated, hasn't kept up with the technology and is administered by a bunch of utter bastards.

It's important to be clear when mulling the topic though, that the problem is built largely by the governments of the day. The BBC COULD be funded from direct taxation instead, stripping out Capita, the ballache, the threats, grannies being prosecuted for nothing, and that whole bullshit about over 70s being "forced to pay". And of course saving a good amount of cash. Once upon a time it made easy sense - you have a TV in your gaff, you deffo watch BBC, therefore a licence. Definitely outdated. But it's better to keep it so they can wield an axe over the BBC instead, to keep them in line.

I've had threatening letters to my storage premises, to flats in a block that didn't even exist and they demanded I prove they didn't exist when I tried to help, and most recently to my late father in law's flat that were seriously dark and threatening. Made me physically shake with anger at their callousness.

Further the "rules" you can watch this but not live, can have a TV but not attached to an aerial, use something with batteries in it etc etc are just trying to keep up with the tech, while not creating a situation where it's impossible to administer. Yes that's ended up with an organisation that just threatens people on an industrial scale.

But BBC is the only thing you can "subscribe" to and be able to watch on anything in your house, multiple things at once if you like, and out and about on whatever gadgets you have to hand. Not possible with the conventional subscription services without paying even more. And is freely available to Doris, 90, stuck in her house with a cheap telly from Asda. If we try to force to bring in anything that actually physically controls where and when you can watch, it's fraught with difficulties, and probably will restrict a lot of situations where the beeb is currently watched. Again compare sky/virgin where you're wedded to and can only watch on the box(es) you have, or netflix with their shared login controls. If we force it we lose something.

Also again note that every subscription service - usually much more in £ or much less in content than the BBC - are also jam packed with adverts, sponsorship and product placement. I certainly don't want my entertainment permanently hawking stuff at me. The exception of course is the new(ish) players like netflix, prime, disney+ etc but as can be easily read about, their investors are funding them buying their market share (to ensure they will be the ones you'll be paying handsomely later) and losing money fast, and creating a situation where we're paying for 6 subscriptions not one. The advertising is coming, on top of your subscription.

Last fact while I'm on a rant. Fox news - yes that one "news" channel in the states of questionable value to anyone costs the people that pay for it the same as 1/2 of the entire BBC. That surely indicates value?

There's LOADS of angles on this one, it's a very nuanced thing.

 

[kingtreelo]

Take it from someone that works in insurance. if your place is absolutely destroyed by a fire and razed to the ground, you'll get a brand new house with everything in it and somewhere to live while they build it for you.

It can only seem like bullshit if you never have to make a claim, which I totally get. but the times when something catastrophic happens, and you've got a good policy that covers you, it'll easily pay itself back.

THIS THIS THIS

i had a pipe burst in my home that basically ruined the whole ground floor, without house insurance i would have been absolutely screwed

had to stay in a hotel for 4 weeks all paid for by insurance

 

[chubsta]

The BBC COULD be funded from direct taxation instead,

So I would have to pay for something I don't use? Of course the argument is always that loads of things are paid for via direct taxation that I don't use so why not the BBC, well the difference to me is that I actively dislike the BBC - sure, some things are very very good, such as the Attenborough stuff, other nature programmes, but the BBC offers me nothing that any other media system doesn't offer and I have a choice whether to pay for them so why should the BBC be any different. Also, there is a big difference between BBC Studios who produce many good programmes and sell them to everyone, and the BBC who buy them and broadcast them - so we wouldn't actually lose any of the content if the BBC lost funding, it would just be watched on other systems.

I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime, and have to suffer adverts to watch stuff I am interested in on YouTube, why should any of my taxes go to pay grossly inflated salaries for presenters who are only too happy to pontificate on political matters about which they know very little.

 

[John Bennett]

This ones brilliant, when you have BBC that setup BBC Verify I mean, they are the home of Disinformation and lies, this is classic I've just found
BBC Peddles Lies

Erm, that's a website run by the government of Iran.

 

[tin]

So I would have to pay for something I don't use?

Do you use the A53 between Market Drayon and loggerheads? Cos you pay for that. Do you use Blowers Green primary school in Dudley? cos you pay for that. Do you have anything to do with any pensioners in Leeds? cos you're paying their state pension.

 

[chubsta]

Do you use the A53 between Market Drayon and loggerheads? Cos you pay for that. Do you use Blowers Green primary school in Dudley? cos you pay for that. Do you have anything to do with any pensioners in Leeds? cos you're paying their state pension.

But as I said, I don’t actively dislike any of those things, and all of them are treat the same as every other road, school etc. the bbc is treat differently to every other broadcaster in that a tax is levied so they get the money regardless of viewing figures etc, itv for instance rely on producing content which is attractive to advertisers.

 

[pooman2084]

The BBC is worth the license fee for its children’s output, BBC4 and Radio 4 alone.

There is high quality programming on all of them that you just don’t find on other channels. I can’t bare to listen to commercial radio, so much noise and sponsorship, you barely get more than 30 minutes of programming every hour.

Having traveled extensively with work, and having sampled tv throughout the world, the BBC is simply in a different league for quality and consistency. It gives the UK so much soft power and influence too.

It’s one of the great institutions of our country and even though I don’t watch any of their more popular shows, it fills a gap that simply wouldn’t be filled otherwise.

I grew up watching Open University on it too, which gave me a much broader education than my school offered.

 

[tb lilley]

What is it, 3 quid a week? Surprising (to me) the amount of grief £3 a week seems to cause people. But each to their own I guess ...

 

[John Bennett]

Hey Duggee is utter genius.
I wish my kids did watch more BBC stuff, at least it's had some form of vetting. They seem to have gravitated to some utter cack on YouTube usually involving smashing stuff, yelling at Minecraft or spunking huge sums of (sponsor) money on toys.

 

[Shun]

Do you use the A53 between Market Drayon and loggerheads? Cos you pay for that. Do you use Blowers Green primary school in Dudley? cos you pay for that. Do you have anything to do with any pensioners in Leeds? cos you're paying their state pension.

Those are essential services. The BBC is not.

Also I shouldn’t have to pay the BBC so that I can F1 on a completely different channel. It makes no sense.

Lastly not only do the BBC charge us to watch other channels, they then have the cheek to charge us to watch previously broadcast BBC programmes (that we have already paid for with the license fee) on “Britbox”. 😡

The license fee needs to go. The BBC needs to use either adverts or a subscription service. If the BBC content is so good, it can stand on its own two feet and pay for itself.

 

[pooman2084]

I struggle to see any correlation between quality content and attractiveness to advertisers.

 

[CMYKhazi-Dan]

Just bin the licence fee and make BBC a subscription service. They can then find the real value of thier broadcasting. And I can then watch what I want without them interfering/ripping me off.

It's a win win for everybody. Oh, except for the BBC. Hmmmm.

 

[Retroman839]

I have never bought a Tv licence
( my missus buys it! Gotta try to faze
It out )

 

[CMYKhazi-Dan]

I've just seen some telly, not watched it for about three years or more. Adverts are fukn nasty. Give me your money. Get fukked. Really weird experience.

 

[pooman2084]

I've just seen some telly, not watched it for about three years or more. Adverts are fukn nasty. Give me your money. Get fukked. Really weird experience.

It’s almost as if we need some kind of funded channel that isn’t beholden to advertisers…!