Any Hyper-milers on here with newish Petrol cars

[TheDaddy]

@TheDaddy - I know you didn't want to go into details, but please tell me it was a dead engine for that sort of money (as a Peugeot owner, I've noticed dealer prices for parts and repairs are utterly stupid).

Well where do I start !!!! I had owned the for around 5 months and was ok apart from once when it stopped (Stop / Start) at a set of lights and then would not restart, After a few tried myself it started and for a few weeks it seemed ok but I was a little nervous when I went start stop kicked in (Be honest it hardly worked anyway , never worked most of the time). Then on my way to work I got this :-



I took this to a friend who owns a garage but his machine would not give him the error codes so he suggested I take it to an approved Peugeot garage , So thats what I did , Took it to the local Stoneacre (Start of my mistake !). To speed things up I have listed exactly what they did to the car and the approx cost below, all had the exact same error on the dash. This happened over around a 6 month period (Error occurred after around 3 - 4 weeks after they reset it) :-

1) Dec 2022 - Emissions Fault - Told the 'ECU' needed a software update as this issue was known and if not updated it can ruin the injector. This was free of charge !!

2) Jan 2023 - Same again - Told the car needed a new Injector and Adblue tank - Cost £1900

3) Late Feb 2023 - Same error - They had the car for week , Then told it just needed resetting - No charge

4)Late March 2023 - Same error - Told its a different fault , Told them ' Bullshit '. They had the car and then presented me with a bill for 4 x Diesel Injectors & A NOX Sensor. Cost £2600.

*** At this point I was considering getting rid of the car and started to look at new ones ***

5)April 2024 - Same error - Car went back into them and then said they need to pressure test and were waiting for new the tester. Car was with them for 4 - 5 weeks why they waited as the car was prety much undrivable as the ' Start impossible' could not be reset (Also bullshit). Had a call to say that the CAT needed replacing , again the cost = £1800.

After this the car was fine , I questioned them all the way through telling them that A - The ECU wrecked the tank so why was I paying ??? B - The work they had done Prior to the DPF was unnecessary. As a gesture of good will they gave me a free service !!!!!! Approx cost = £6300, Well worth the service !

I am unsure why I got rid as there was nothing else could go wrong !! Everything had been replaced. I truely believe that all the issues were the cat so in my opinion it should have been diagnosed correctly and I would have been charged £1800. But what can you do ????

Dave.

 

[TheDaddy]

Honda in Cannock.

We are prety close , I work in Stafford !!! Dont take yours to Stoneacre in Stafford ! lol

Dave.

 

[SIE]

honda eny1 deal - feb 2024 end - Page 1 - Car Buying - PistonHeads UK

Worth keeping an eye on here to see if anymore come up.

 

[SIE]

We are prety close , I work in Stafford !!! Dont take yours to Stoneacre in Stafford ! lol

Dave.

I live in Northwich but travelled to get the deal.

 

[John Bennett]

Well where do I start !!!! I had owned the for around 5 months and was ok apart from once when it stopped (Stop / Start) at a set of lights and then would not restart, After a few tried myself it started and for a few weeks it seemed ok but I was a little nervous when I went start stop kicked in (Be honest it hardly worked anyway , never worked most of the time). Then on my way to work I got this :-

Ah, the Adblue system failure.
That went on my workmates 208 (I think) and after the first big £1800 bill didn't sort it we just told her to get shot of it. Was a lot lower mileage than the 100k yours had too. With dealers only using official, brand-new parts and no intention of any illegal bypassing stuff, it can easily become a nightmare.

That and DPF failures are one of the big drawbacks to diesel car reliability (as I said in the other thread, we killed a DPF on our S-MAX in 17000 miles using it around the doors - £2000 under warranty, but it'll almost certainly go again in a year or two).

 

[Del Griffith]

I’m still using a PD diesel engine, No Dpf, No adblu, 60+ mpg and enough power to keep up with modern traffic. Just keeps me away from the ULEZ zones 😂 Barsteds

 

[Bods]

This is why I avoided Diesel and I could of just bought Civic Estate but the Suspension mounts inside the rear are closer than my HRV, also my seats fold flat where are the Civic rear seat bases lift up and then back goes flat reducing length of items you can fit in on top of that the tailgate slopes where mine is pretty flat, so I took engine out hatchback civic I used for a while commuting to work which got me 49/50mpg 1.5 petrol and put that engine in the HRV to improve fuel economy which didn't work until I got longer fifth gear as the Civic had long ratios in all gears and got 50mpg on last run in HRV which wasn't bad, I'd say the Civic would of done 55mpg on long runs

I refuse to be at the mercy of these garages with software updates and rip off repair prices you can't do your self on modern cars. sometimes I can't be bothered to do stuff myself but eventually I have too as I don't trust others doing the work really

Only regret was not keeping the 3dr 2wd HRV to put engine in, I also reduced my Tax cost from what would be now on my first HRV £395 to more reasonable £200 last year, it did only go up £10 every two years but Government don't want us in cars and News today Oxford looking at Charging SUV's and Bigger cars higher parking Charges in City Centre

 

[Bods]

Ah, the Adblue system failure.
That went on my workmates 208 (I think) and after the first big £1800 bill didn't sort it we just told her to get shot of it. Was a lot lower mileage than the 100k yours had too. With dealers only using official, brand-new parts and no intention of any illegal bypassing stuff, it can easily become a nightmare.

That and DPF failures are one of the big drawbacks to diesel car reliability (as I said in the other thread, we killed a DPF on our S-MAX in 17000 miles using it around the doors - £2000 under warranty, but it'll almost certainly go again in a year or two).

would have to check again but we had email on the Citroen vans at work about issues with them and I'm trying to think now if it was about the Adblue, no ones done anything about it anyway so far

 

[TheDaddy]

would have to check again but we had email on the Citroen vans at work about issues with them and I'm trying to think now if it was about the Adblue, no ones done anything about it anyway so far

If so I would, especially if they under warranty. Mine was just 3 years old , Had a few miles on it though.

Dave.

 

[John Bennett]

I refuse to be at the mercy of these garages with software updates and rip off repair prices you can't do your self on modern cars. sometimes I can't be bothered to do stuff myself but eventually I have too as I don't trust others doing the work really

Me, being me, I've started to look into it for the Peugeot and it does seem you can do it yourself, it's just daunting. For, a few quid (£8, I think?) a time you get access to the Stelantis servers for a day or so, which lets you run the software to communicate with the cars, re-code stuff, I'd imagine firmware updates, etc - probably part of the 'right to repair' rules and allowing independent garages a chance to compete. Diagrams and recall notices are on there too.
You don't need any official CAN tool either, so there are clones for under £100.... I think. I still need to investigate more - better to learn in advance than wait for the car to fail first.

 

[TheDaddy]

Was it DPF on mine not CAT ?? Yeh think it was ! lol. Shows what I know about cars.

Dave.

 

[John Bennett]

Cars do have both. Even petrol cars have particulate filters now, although they're supposed to be a lot less prone to sooting-up, and you obviously can't flood them with adblue.
When the adblue went on my workmate's car, it was literally pissing out the exhaust (appropriate considering it's made of urea), so it was a case of 'we don't know what it's trashed until we replace X,Y,Z....'.

 

[pooman2084]

I ordered a Polestar 2 today on a 3 year PCH. It’s fully serviced with tyres and wear and tear stuff included for £460 a month, but we’re paying 12 months deposit to get that down to under £370.

I’ve just paid £600 for front pads and brakes on my 5 yo V40 and have already put 3 sets of front tyres on at 34,000 miles. I’ve got an expensive service coming up and the ACTUAL is playing up so it’s a good time to cash in what I have as I own the car outright.

We’ll be able to ‘fill up’ for £6 and be able to do about 200 miles. I do that a week and that’s pretty much a tank of fuel round here so will save £300 a month in patrol and Road tax. It’s a no brainer really. Getting a charger out in for just under a grand.

I live in Wycombe and my morning school / work run does 4 massive hills up and down so MPG is always horrible and it just chews tyres and brakes. For me this will pretty much pay for itself once you include brakes and tyres.

 

[Bods]

I don't know what's going on with these cars you all have but the van at work had new front tyres at nearly 40k and the backs at nearly 50k and I don't driving it careful

My cars I can change full discs and pads for £100-150 do it myself but even so, most I've spent recent was new front calipers as front were binding, £170
it's all the brakes, suspension, tyres were my money goes, not the engine that's the most reliable part

I'm surprised more here don't drive Japanese cars, I wouldn't have anything else

 

[pooman2084]

I’m literally either accelerating up a hill or braking down one in all my driving. When I did motorway driving a set would last me 25k. 12k is pretty good now.

 

[John Bennett]

I don't know what's going on with these cars you all have but the van at work had new front tyres at nearly 40k and the backs at nearly 50k and I don't driving it careful

My cars I can change full discs and pads for £100-150 do it myself but even so, most I've spent recent was new front calipers as front were binding, £170
it's all the brakes, suspension, tyres were my money goes, not the engine that's the most reliable part

I'm surprised more here don't drive Japanese cars, I wouldn't have anything else

So many cars are 19"-20" wheels with fat tyres, huge discs and multi-pot calipers now, so tyres, rims, discs and pads do cost more. I guess it's as weight and performance is more than it was. Plus they look better
There's always the dealer 2-3x mark-up too. I need to source discs for my 508 at some point as the dealer parts cost is £1000 a disc .

 

[Bods]

Yeah it was Adblue issues with work vans, no one seems to be bothered though as they haven't gone in Garage for it, ain't my van so I don't care

I win anyway as it doesn't cost me anything to get to work now as they told us to take van home else it costs them more money parking them all week and they pay all fuel cost, not taxed as don't use it private, downside is having to drive the shitroen van

 

[kingtreelo]

im on the fence with electrics, due a new car shortly as my car is about 6 years old now but i've never had to pay anything out for it to be repaired, we got it when it had hardly any mileage on it(petrol) and while being the crappest car ive ever driven, its nice inside and is pretty cost effective

seen a lot of people say "if you are using your car for small trips, they are great, dont bother if you ever want to travel any sort of distance"

and i get that, who wants to sit around for an hour to charge a car in the middle of a long journey, it annoys me stopping for a piss at a service station

being someone who has driven round europe a few times now, i cant think of anything worse than that

 

[TheDaddy]

who wants to sit around for an hour to charge a car in the middle of a long journey, it annoys me stopping for a piss at a service station

being someone who has driven round europe a few times now, i cant think of anything worse than that

Then i dont think they are for you mate to be fair , And if you charging at public all the time its expensive.

As I said my boss goes everywhere in his and he loves stopping at topping it up , Taking a pee and grabbing something to eat and a coffee. Oh and he has the money to fill up as well ! lol

Dave.

 

[pooman2084]

I reckon I’ll be able to pretty much exclusively charge from home with £6 giving me about 200 miles.

I’m knocking on now so can’t really get more than 4 hours in a car without having to get out and stretch or have a walk about. We’ll see how it goes but having been a few places in friends’ EVs, stopping is rarely a hassle and usually a welcome break.

I can’t lie, I’m quite excited to get delivery.