silverfox0786
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RGP said:silverfox0786 said:RGP said:
James....
Sell me your TRON
Sure, for £3000 then I can import another from the U.S. or wherever I find one
HAHA
in all fairness your not far off, I think they sold for about 2k before silverfox07862015-02-15 15:33:28
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Alpha1 said:I encourage the debate guys but lets all be polite
YES, please....but anyways, I ignore the only one person in that thread that was not
As for the topic, Oliver, remember a year back when I posted my barnraid.
Next to 100 other people also you came in touch (although I never stated anything is for sale) and asked for the several games.
One was the Galaxian, I told you that it is not for sale because it stays in my collection. You wrote some more mails for that cerain soccer-pinball but also again for the Galaxian.
You said if it is ever for sale you going to pay a certain amount of money.
STILL I did not feel bothered, we had a very nice contact and even got one another on FB now (although, how I wrote you today, you answers get shorter and shorter
From a game request....or more than one resulted a friendship, which is a nice thing....its also a fact that that brought me over to UKVAC. So all in all a beautiful story.
What I want to point out is - I did´nt start asking for crazy amounts of money and even more if you require pictures only because you would like to have that game, I said that it is not for sale.
Plus, I MENTION IT AGAIN, he did NOT say not for sale, he opened the negotiations, if he would have said "Not for sale" I would have said thanks and kind regards like I did it with at least 3 others...which I can proof!
What I decry is THE WAY he negotiate.
Lets imagine for a minute I would say OK, I take the 5000USD-option and therefor want to have the pictures within 24 hours - what would have been his reaction???
He would have said "OK, here are my account-data, send the money by PayPal and I go for the images".
First, I am sure (as lazy as he is) he would not provide the pictures....and if for sure not within 24 hours....he would already have the money anyways...so no pressure on his side.
Secondly, if I got the pictures....(when ever)...what is the point of having pictures? If the machine is not in the quality I want it, what would he do? Would he send the money back, I really doubt that!!!
And further more, what are the 5000USD for? Can I expect the worlds most perfect Ninja Warriors in NOS-like conditions, or do I buy, with the 4000USD on top of the 1000, only the labor to go out and make pictures within 24 hours?
Its a miracle to me how a member here can defend such a behavior...really!
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Hannes its not th behaviour that James is defending
its your way of reaction,
I agree the reply you got could have been better, but you did the ultimate wrong and posted a public defaming thread
I had it done to me out of error and the poster apologised but it still was very hurt full to me to be publicly ridiculed
its your way of reaction,
I agree the reply you got could have been better, but you did the ultimate wrong and posted a public defaming thread
I had it done to me out of error and the poster apologised but it still was very hurt full to me to be publicly ridiculed
Shouldn't this thread be renamed
Idiots on vac as well ?
Is this all that is intersting to talk about ?
Why make this thread anyway
I get stuff like this all the time but is it really worth making a thread about
Ffs
Idiots on vac as well ?
Is this all that is intersting to talk about ?
Why make this thread anyway
I get stuff like this all the time but is it really worth making a thread about
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What I alos want to mention:
God, how much mails, calls and visits I made only for
game-requests of forum-members (who did never do anything for me
before) although I never offered them for sale, games I did not buy anyways.
For a guy who wanted the Midway-Figher cabs I went out
on my weekend, took my girl with me, collected all the midways from 3
different venues (and if you watch the pictures closly they where hidden
behind tons of other games, brought them out in the sunlight (no
electric energy in the ruin out there) and my girl washed it all down.
Then I made pictures from all corners and descriptions for EVERY SINGLE cab...which took an entire weekend.
Plus I had to take my girl to a dinner for the work.
This video happen accured that weekend....you see my girlfriend washing the last machine of 12 or so:
If you have ever moved such a Midway-sucker, you know how heavy 200kg are......x12
God, how much mails, calls and visits I made only for
game-requests of forum-members (who did never do anything for me
before) although I never offered them for sale, games I did not buy anyways.
For a guy who wanted the Midway-Figher cabs I went out
on my weekend, took my girl with me, collected all the midways from 3
different venues (and if you watch the pictures closly they where hidden
behind tons of other games, brought them out in the sunlight (no
electric energy in the ruin out there) and my girl washed it all down.
Then I made pictures from all corners and descriptions for EVERY SINGLE cab...which took an entire weekend.
Plus I had to take my girl to a dinner for the work.
This video happen accured that weekend....you see my girlfriend washing the last machine of 12 or so:
If you have ever moved such a Midway-sucker, you know how heavy 200kg are......x12
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silverfox0786 said:
Silverfox, I already said that I did not choose the name of the thread wisley.
I was not intended to insult KLOV...just have created a thread-name.
Now from the current point of view I understand your objection.
I dont know if I can rename the thread, I will try it right now when I postet this posting I just type.
In fact THERE ARE postings who defended the seller politics...
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synonym9 said:
you can edit it, go to your first post and click edit
but as James said, its a little too late and that's what his annoyance was a most of us here and klov and arcade otaku and other places know each other and are friends with each other and don't take kindly to public executions that should not of happened
no one is against you but you should have just walked away even though you didn't like the reply you got
every culture if different and you need to respect that
I have found that sometimes Italians get very angry very quickly but I accept that and when it happens I don't go off in a flame as I know that's their nature sometimes
and also found polish are very headstrong and never back down in a argument, again I just come to accept it and most of the time just let them win the argument
not everyone is moulded from the same bag od clay, you need to remember that
an in all honesty after reading the reply you got from John a few times
NOOOO he was NOT RUDE or WRONG, he just went straight to the point and was FRANK with you silverfox07862015-02-15 16:25:03
For me I would replied the same 
I'm happy to arse about but it will cost you. I have sent verbal insults to many collectors and had similar from those I insult. I honestly think most of them would deal with me again, but I'm very lucky to deal with them. We shout, we swear but we do the deal we don't disrespect each other online, hth.
I'm happy to arse about but it will cost you. I have sent verbal insults to many collectors and had similar from those I insult. I honestly think most of them would deal with me again, but I'm very lucky to deal with them. We shout, we swear but we do the deal we don't disrespect each other online, hth.
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I got an answer with a KLOV´er since some days.
I found the seller on his "WTB Ninja Warriors"-thread.
The certain seller we talk about in that thread offered his machine to him, so scrolled down in the thread to look if the game was sold.
The potential buyer bumped the thread by "still looking for a Ninja Warriors-machine", so I realized he did not buy the machine form that guy.
I wrote him a mail just asking if he found a machine and if he want to get rid of it meanwhile and to talk little with a Ninja Warriors-lover.
In the conversation came out that he had some offers and he can look in his mails if he still find the mails of the guys who wanted to sell him there machines so that I can drop them a line.
Further he talked about one guy - original copy/paste:
"there was one bargainer I still have in mind, I cannot recommend though. he asked for insane price but he refused to provide photographies before I pay the device. the effort would be to high to travel to the warehouse for an interested but non paying party"
I am not going any further into it, I am just happy I did not make any business with that guy, I wind a disaster.
I also know (from my time I did have a full KLOV-account) that he marked the NW for years and saw in the KLOV search that he offered the games several time to guys who looked for a NW.
I am sure its good that I stood away from this person.
I found the seller on his "WTB Ninja Warriors"-thread.
The certain seller we talk about in that thread offered his machine to him, so scrolled down in the thread to look if the game was sold.
The potential buyer bumped the thread by "still looking for a Ninja Warriors-machine", so I realized he did not buy the machine form that guy.
I wrote him a mail just asking if he found a machine and if he want to get rid of it meanwhile and to talk little with a Ninja Warriors-lover.
In the conversation came out that he had some offers and he can look in his mails if he still find the mails of the guys who wanted to sell him there machines so that I can drop them a line.
Further he talked about one guy - original copy/paste:
"there was one bargainer I still have in mind, I cannot recommend though. he asked for insane price but he refused to provide photographies before I pay the device. the effort would be to high to travel to the warehouse for an interested but non paying party"
I am not going any further into it, I am just happy I did not make any business with that guy, I wind a disaster.
I also know (from my time I did have a full KLOV-account) that he marked the NW for years and saw in the KLOV search that he offered the games several time to guys who looked for a NW.
I am sure its good that I stood away from this person.
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JohnBud said:For me I would replied the same
You talk straigt out of my souls.....its not always a reason to make one self wet....some hard words dont kill anyone.
BTW Johnny, give me another time the chance to thank you....you what I mean
synonym9 said:
So let me get this straight .... You contact some guy on KLOV that had posted a wanted ad for NW. And you get into an exchange, and, cut and paste, the above is what he tells you?
Jesus.
He either went to the same English class you did, or uses the same brand of translation software. Either way, it's good that you've found a soul mate.
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jengineer said:
Thats the right attitude....
silverfox0786
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you know what James reading this thread is making you look a little silly now
you made your point a long time ago and a lot of us where in agreement with you
but now your going above and beyond to really dig out the flesh and blood from the wound and its making you look like the bad guy
this thread is starting to get stupid and boring
you need to give it a rest now and walk away, Hannes made a mistake and you need to understand he is European and does not at times understand UK and US slang and the way we talk
but your really sticking a RED HOT poker into it
you made your point a long time ago and a lot of us where in agreement with you
but now your going above and beyond to really dig out the flesh and blood from the wound and its making you look like the bad guy
this thread is starting to get stupid and boring
you need to give it a rest now and walk away, Hannes made a mistake and you need to understand he is European and does not at times understand UK and US slang and the way we talk
but your really sticking a RED HOT poker into it
It's got nothing to do with him being a European. And I couldn't care less how this thread makes me look old chap. Not in the least bit concerned about that.
Rightly or wrongly I object quite strongly to Hannes particular brand of bullsh*t and insults. It's not the first time, and won't be the last. I'll be keeping tabs on Hannes over on KLOV - not that I need to, those boys will take him to pieces if he steps too far out of line.
But ok - nothing more from me in this thread.
Good day to you.
Rightly or wrongly I object quite strongly to Hannes particular brand of bullsh*t and insults. It's not the first time, and won't be the last. I'll be keeping tabs on Hannes over on KLOV - not that I need to, those boys will take him to pieces if he steps too far out of line.
But ok - nothing more from me in this thread.
Good day to you.