Car people - Buying a used car in 2023, it's a nightmare!
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My only other advice it check your insurance (Forgot to mention this is my original post) it gone up a shed load anyway and I was finding that for the Jag I Was looking for it was 30-40% more expensive and the access was around £750 + for most of them.
I still think EV is the way forward , Only issue is when you are out if you need to charge its more than Petrol/Diesel but at home you can get a special tariff at night for like 7.5p Per KW so depending on your battery it could be cheap to charge.
I borrowed a Kia Nero when Mine was in (We have a charger at work and that was Freeeeeeeeee ! lol) and I could get 300 miles on a full charge , But that was middle of summer so no lights , Heated windscreen ect ect.
Dave.
I still think EV is the way forward , Only issue is when you are out if you need to charge its more than Petrol/Diesel but at home you can get a special tariff at night for like 7.5p Per KW so depending on your battery it could be cheap to charge.
I borrowed a Kia Nero when Mine was in (We have a charger at work and that was Freeeeeeeeee ! lol) and I could get 300 miles on a full charge , But that was middle of summer so no lights , Heated windscreen ect ect.
Dave.
kingtreelo
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if i see anyone in this thread who are talking about buying a 30k car complaining about the cost of anything i will hunt you down
I would never suggest anyone buys an EV with their own money but buy it on a PCP with a monthly payment.
EV market place is too price volatile to be carrying that risk on your own shoulders.
The garage I work at lost over 100k on EV vehicles we had in stock when good old Elon knocked £10k off the screen price of new model 3 without warning.
kingtreelo
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my work is trying to encourage people to buy an electric vehicle, you just know that the insurance and price of running these sorts of vehicles is about to explode once you dont have any other choice
just another government scam IMO
John Bennett
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Sorry, your line of work is a scam?
The insurance on the fast Teslas is already group 50, so that bhp comes at a Ferrari level premium.
If you have a company car and pay BIK its a no brainer to get an EV.
I used to drive a Mustang which was £500 a month in BIK plus personal fuel of circa £300.
I now drive an EV which is £80 BIK and I charge the car for free at work for both business and personal.
Where I miss the fun and noise of a V8 I am not paying £800 a month for the privilege and the Tesla is faster, smoother and more comfortable.
I can also watch Netflix in it and play a list of Atari classics like Asteroids and missile command whilst waiting for the kids to arrive.
I used to drive a Mustang which was £500 a month in BIK plus personal fuel of circa £300.
I now drive an EV which is £80 BIK and I charge the car for free at work for both business and personal.
Where I miss the fun and noise of a V8 I am not paying £800 a month for the privilege and the Tesla is faster, smoother and more comfortable.
I can also watch Netflix in it and play a list of Atari classics like Asteroids and missile command whilst waiting for the kids to arrive.
Even better get your company to join a salary sacrifice ev scheme, that way depending on your tax rate you can get HMRC to go halfsies on the costs including servicing and insurance 😄
Trade insurance is a joke when it comes to EV, we have age limitations that are linked to engine size, 18-21 no more than 1.4, 22- 24 no more than 1.6.
With EV being 0cc they can be driven by any age group including the 0-60 in 3 seconds stuff and they wonder why the claims are rising.
We used to have a great scheme through CBS (Car Benefit Solutions ) but with EV it non longer make any sense to use them currently.
Once the Gov realises how many millions they are losing by not BIK taxing EV the same as ICE vehicles I'm sure the industry will be back looking for loopholes.
Been driving rwd 6 cylinder petrols for over 13 years & never thought they were costing too much to run in fuel or tax as these are often my lowest bills, I work about 8 miles away from home.
I live in a terrace so EV is a long way off, but I have faith in the Japanese with solid state batteries.
I live in a terrace so EV is a long way off, but I have faith in the Japanese with solid state batteries.
I had a vw passat estate for 7 years, brilliant reliable car, ran it to the ground and it still kept going, sold it and got an Audi 6 avant, again a brilliant car. I have a thing for German cars now but need to get another next year as my Audi is touching 150k. I have one eye on a Skoda Superb hybrid but I'm not to sure.
By tax I am referring to benefit in kind tax because I get a company car as part of my employment, jut checked on Comcar website and a Petrol Mustang has a BIK tax of £5800 per year or £480 a month in additional tax for some one earning £35k P.A.
That to me is just madness when you can get a Tesla for £15 a month with the same level of income.
A Porsche Taycan Turbo S retailing at over £150k has a BIK under £50 a month as again its a full EV, a 911 petrol at the same price you would pay £1700 a month for the privilege.
Government making it financially unviable to drive a fossil fuel vehicle by making EV impossibly cheap.
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BIK rates for ev's are going up from 2025. Currently 1%, eventually rising to 5% I think
My mates got a Tesla on company with free charging at work so I can see the benefits for some, he mentioned it was 1% for the first year & 2% thereafter vs much higher on fuel.
I work in this industry so there's no chance of 35K
I work in this industry so there's no chance of 35K
That's the way they are getting EV's on the road, Private sales of them are down because people are seeing what a con it is, there not green anyway, zero emissions from the car doesn't equal zero emissions from the planetMy mates got a Tesla on company with free charging at work so I can see the benefits for some, he mentioned it was 1% for the first year & 2% thereafter vs much higher on fuel.
I work in this industry so there's no chance of 35K
Seems the london underground is the worst place to be for pollution
years back I was considering converting mine to electric until you look at the cost, but as the whole scam is slowly being exposed they don't interest me at all, full of touch screens and software they can download to when they want, turn features on and off, shut it down, so only was i would consider one at any point is my own converted car
Before really seeing the man made climax hoax scam too, I was looking to swap engine in my car to save me money and do my bit to helping save the planet but when they say no we won't reduce the car tax because you have a smaller engine with lower emissions you know it's not about saving the planet, just the usual ripping us off
Same for me, I have ultra reliable 1980's Technics Hi-Fi stuff so what car would you choose, Ultra Reliable Japanese, personally I prefer Honda and I wouldn't drive anything else
Had many Company cars over the years and never 100% liked a single one of em, Mondeo had some sort of dead spot on accelerator and would stall all time, heavy clutch, boot wouldn't shut half time, sony stereo over heat, Smax same heavy clutch and boot issue, others had same issues with both cars
Vauxhall Astra's were nothing but crap, Engine oil leaked out one while driving on motorway, oil pressure light never even came on
one was going in garage to have brakes replaced, before the monday it was booked in it started leaking water so I was freezing cold working half the weekend, had to keep topping water up, 2 weeks it took em to sort water leak and they gave me it back without brakes being done, so back in and I got to use the load car another shitty astra with faulty brakes, how it's possible I don't honestly know but you would drive along and brake fine, randomly you would go to brake and pedal straight to floor like you had no brake fluid and then lift off, press again and brakes back as normal
no one would believe me and they wouldnt do anything about it, AA or RAC guy said use your handbrake Peugeot/citroen, on geez last van I had pulled to the left from day one, let go of wheel on motorway and your veer left, 3 times it was in before they sorted that out, guy I was talking to at work said he had major issues with his company car, similar problems i seem to remember and he was saying they are setup for french roads, he used to be a mechanic and work on them, the main dealers couldn't fix it, kept coming back the same, he got so fed up he told the company pay for the parts and he'll fix it himself he was so fed up
Don't think many people realise just how crap some of these new vehicles are, new Shitroen van as i call it, wanders all over the road all the time on motorway, you don't notice it at first but thing while is it pulling left right all time following every back bit of uneven tarmac, constantly having to move the wheel left a bit, right a bit it's really tiring and boring and I hate driving all these new vans
So when I used to drive my 2000 HRV and 1995 CRX to work, I thought I'd see if I have same issue on same part of motorway and nope, no issue at all, go nice and straight, hardly move the wheel on motorway the whole journey unless its a bend, then I was reading one of the Honda brochures and it says about the suspension being designed to avoid this exact issue, honda seem to take visibility as an important factor where Peugeot/Citroen it seems to be one of last, aweful looking 2008 Peugeot 308 SW I had, The A pillars are so big and badly placed I nearly pulled out on someone at an island because it's blocks the whole view of the vehicle, this citroen van at work is same, I have to lean left and right to look around it to make sure nothing coming
80's 90's ones were probably decent but i'd never touch anything french car wise these days
because of how conscious i am driving the van now with it all over road and having to correct wheel constant, had trip to Norwich and back yesterday in mine and I was taking note of how much I turned the wheel on the nearly 300 mile trip, hardly at all, would drive mine anytime over any of the company cars i've had
while talking cars, here is a question for you all
Why if were trying to save the planet would you ditch Reflective Cat's Eyes on Roads and Motorways for Solar Charging Battery Powered LED ones
How is that helping anything, the mind boggles at the level of BS you see now
Why if were trying to save the planet would you ditch Reflective Cat's Eyes on Roads and Motorways for Solar Charging Battery Powered LED ones
How is that helping anything, the mind boggles at the level of BS you see now