John Bennett said:
Vamino said:
The narrative quickly went from stay at home if you have flu like
symptoms, to we are all gonna die without a miracle vaccine to save the
day. Well I'm not living my life in fear due to a flu virus, but, on the flip side I understand there has to be guidelines. It's not the first time there has been a pandemic, and it wont be the last.
In my opinion the former justice of the supreme court speaks more sense than what the tabloids are currently belching out. And if you want a proper scientist there are plenty speaking facts that are not getting any mention in the mainstream tabloids.
Both the UK and USA governments in their daily press briefings have admitted that the figures for total deaths include people who didn't die from the virus, and a lot of deaths were people that died from other issues but tested positive for having the virus present in their system. Who knows how many of those deaths included tests from the recent batch of innacurate tests purchased from China, the UK government is trying to recoup taxpayers money after Oxford University trials proved them to be innacurate.
If this situation continues without anyone actually listening to any of the scientists that are currently questioning the hysteria then the next phase will probably be a mass lockdown and vaccination of all pets.
I do think the tabloids have been dreadful, whipping up anger as well as dwelling on the absolute worst.
But I certainly don't want it for me or my family - flu is unpleasant at best, this feels more like Russian roulette. Not everyone knows of their underlying conditions and this thing goes for heart, liver, lungs.... Suppose a lot of my fear is all down to the horror stories, but I hope we find the balance where we can protect ourselves, avoid hospital collapse and limp along until an external factor comes along (mass testing, vaccine, treatment...?).
But the death rates are there to see. 2020 is not a normal year by a huge margin.
I really feel strongly about how the media have acted during all of this mate. It's been disgusting in my opinion and it has shown well and truly how one sided they can be when it suits them. Eddie large of Little and Large dies, RIP Mr Large, and the newspapers all quote doom
and gloom. But the reality is that he had been suffering from heart
conditions for years. And the media reports that his cause of death was dying 'with' covid 19, not 'from it. Yet he is on the died from Covid 19 list.
Is it such a coincidence that all the media outlets that Rupert Murdoch owns have such a one sided view on this situation, am I a conspiracy theorist for mentioning that fact? It's even more relevent when you state the fact that he profits from vaccines due to his investment portfolio. That's a question for the future generation to ponder over when all of this has been documented into the history books. History has a way of unearthing facts not readily available to the general public.
If you go back even further, the total ongoing chart for winter deaths since 1954 show there are always blips whever there is a bad flu. And my point is, specifically for this flu, is that the stats relating to Covid 19 deaths include deaths where the person didn't actually die from it. So in order to be fair if we show total deaths during specific periods it will eliminate any question of doubt whether more people are dying from this current flu than they have in previous years.
Whenever someone questions what the media says the knee jerk reaction that's programmed into people is that they are a conspiracy theorist, and they believe in aliens and lizard people. Also throw some guilt in there and it ensures people can no longer speak their minds without the fear of emotional and conspiritorial backlash.
Some people over 70 are hard as nails. The place where I worked 30 years ago, the father of the owner was in the 2nd world war and used to work in the factory. His lighter had saved his life from a bullet, he endured terrible conditions during and after the war and many of his mates dies from illness or serious injury. And yet, there he was in his 70 washing his hands in terps after painting brackets, inhaling noxious paint fumes and all sorts. God bless him, he showed me that getting older doesn't necessarily mean becoming a weak old man, but we do need to use common sense as he thought he was indestructible.
Once I had a gist of what was going on I turned off that wailing yelling screaming tabloid noise, searched out for other people perspectives on what was happening and had the pleasure/displeasure to experience all of this insanity first hand on the frontlines so to speak. From the beginning to where we are now, it's amazing to see some people literally being scared to death.
Even if there's a miracle super vaccine, combine that with a diet of fast food, pop and crisps, that vaccine isn't going to save everyone from getting ill if they have an underlying health issue. The slogan to eat 5 a day has gone out the window and it's almost like people are rubbing their hands in glee when people get sick because ultimately someone will profit from it.
It's unfortunate people have died from complications of this flu, and I'm truly sorry for the families involved. But we need to have independant enquiries of the effects of what has been enforced upon the people in order to come up with a solution on what's best going forward. I'm just an engineer, so I don't have the answer, but there are people who are qualified to do that.
2020 may go down as one of the most craziest documented years in human history, I never would have belived it if I had been told this last year!