How many of us are still out there working?
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Now a few more of you may be back at work I was just wondering what the working conditions are like for you guys regarding social distancing?
I've been fighting a losing battle over the last couple of months with our half arsed attempts, it feels like I'm stuck in a game of Pac-Man at times trying to plot my route to avoid people walking into me.
Since Tuesday there has been official guidelines for safe working practices on the government website so at least I can point to that now but when I told my boss that we have to do risk assessment and improve our covid 19 defence measures he basically said we don't. I told him it says on the government website that the employer must have a written risk assessment and adhere to the safety guidelines set out and he refused to read it saying he hasn't got time.
Anyway, I didn't let it slide so he's agreed we need one now but I'm left writing the bloody thing. Last week we put stickers on our van's saying 1 person per cab, now he's trying to make 2 of us travel together, well I won't be bloody doing it. Hate to say it but he literally couldn't give a crap about us.
It's all so stressful, I hope you guys are faring better.
I've been fighting a losing battle over the last couple of months with our half arsed attempts, it feels like I'm stuck in a game of Pac-Man at times trying to plot my route to avoid people walking into me.
Since Tuesday there has been official guidelines for safe working practices on the government website so at least I can point to that now but when I told my boss that we have to do risk assessment and improve our covid 19 defence measures he basically said we don't. I told him it says on the government website that the employer must have a written risk assessment and adhere to the safety guidelines set out and he refused to read it saying he hasn't got time.
Anyway, I didn't let it slide so he's agreed we need one now but I'm left writing the bloody thing. Last week we put stickers on our van's saying 1 person per cab, now he's trying to make 2 of us travel together, well I won't be bloody doing it. Hate to say it but he literally couldn't give a crap about us.
It's all so stressful, I hope you guys are faring better.
my boss is being a dick but he has no backbone when challenged so we are in on split rotation , he thinks its ok for the company to pay him full whack and then go off volunteering when he is not in work id use the word moron but feel that would be to much like a compliment for him .
Retroman839
Senior Member
im working
and close to people it impossible
carpentry. self employed.
my gramps has got virus
, thank god gramps corona doctors said it aint the worst case they have seen
but been a rough couple of days because he has aslo picked up another super bug...
hospitals are a place where you can go and pick up a deadly infection....
gramps took part second world war, he drove a Bren gun carrier,
2 person heavy machine gun vehicle
he and his friend they would take it in turns to drive or man the Bren gun....
he survived the war... im hoping he makes it through this....
i spoke to him toady on the phone for the first time in a week... and it has been touch and go..
his generation are strong they have been through it...
At 18 when he went to war... after avoided the draft.. twice!
His mother lying to his where abouts.
Eventually being jailed held @ old scotland yard for hiding from the draft.
Escorted handcuffed by 2 military on a train to Bruge he was re acquainted with his squad.
He was told by his commanding officer " you wasted enough time, he was to fall in with your squad and get on with it"!
The reason he didn't want to go to war was he had just met my nan. he had fallen for 16 year old vixen young love.
For the next three years they corresponded by letter only.
until war ended..
Last week was my nans 94 birthday.
So i spent that afternoon blowing her kisses through the glass closed window... telling her that gramps IS going to make it back.
That he made it back from Germany through the war.
he is going to make it back through this sh*t to!
my sister is a nurse in Manchester.. self isolated back in march with symptoms away from her family
and my missus sister works palliative care in Spain. she has now been relived by collage graduates.
to try to keep infection rates low. so she is fur longed now.
its hard for me to avoid people at work we are well inside each others space. but we have good alcohol anti virus hand cleaning stuff.
two friends parents have the virus i found out friday.
we have to go to shops, to me today felt weird like people really making an effort to get some sort of normality back, but by like charging around inside the supermarket and getting to close to me
i couldnt seem to get my 2m safe zone thing going , like people where just getting far to close to me.
but am i the only one who has been eyeing up the plastic till protector's for marquees ?
and close to people it impossible
carpentry. self employed.
my gramps has got virus
, thank god gramps corona doctors said it aint the worst case they have seen
but been a rough couple of days because he has aslo picked up another super bug...
hospitals are a place where you can go and pick up a deadly infection....
gramps took part second world war, he drove a Bren gun carrier,
2 person heavy machine gun vehicle
he and his friend they would take it in turns to drive or man the Bren gun....
he survived the war... im hoping he makes it through this....
i spoke to him toady on the phone for the first time in a week... and it has been touch and go..
his generation are strong they have been through it...
At 18 when he went to war... after avoided the draft.. twice!
His mother lying to his where abouts.
Eventually being jailed held @ old scotland yard for hiding from the draft.
Escorted handcuffed by 2 military on a train to Bruge he was re acquainted with his squad.
He was told by his commanding officer " you wasted enough time, he was to fall in with your squad and get on with it"!
The reason he didn't want to go to war was he had just met my nan. he had fallen for 16 year old vixen young love.
For the next three years they corresponded by letter only.
until war ended..
Last week was my nans 94 birthday.
So i spent that afternoon blowing her kisses through the glass closed window... telling her that gramps IS going to make it back.
That he made it back from Germany through the war.
he is going to make it back through this sh*t to!
my sister is a nurse in Manchester.. self isolated back in march with symptoms away from her family
and my missus sister works palliative care in Spain. she has now been relived by collage graduates.
to try to keep infection rates low. so she is fur longed now.
its hard for me to avoid people at work we are well inside each others space. but we have good alcohol anti virus hand cleaning stuff.
two friends parents have the virus i found out friday.
we have to go to shops, to me today felt weird like people really making an effort to get some sort of normality back, but by like charging around inside the supermarket and getting to close to me
i couldnt seem to get my 2m safe zone thing going , like people where just getting far to close to me.
but am i the only one who has been eyeing up the plastic till protector's for marquees ?
Scary times, a lot of dickheads about.
I've just been to Asda and it was twice as busy as last week at the same time and there was no social distancing going on. Seems like people have forgotten already. Just a matter of time before the R climbs back up now.
I've just been to Asda and it was twice as busy as last week at the same time and there was no social distancing going on. Seems like people have forgotten already. Just a matter of time before the R climbs back up now.
I'm still working, no change here, I just get on with it to be honest. Looking back I had a really bad dose of flu last October which would
have knocked anyone for six, Shane can testify to that as I gave it to
him! I did warn him I had a bad flu beforehand though.
I'm surrounded by people all the time and there's nothing I can really do about it. I'm not living my life in fear. I quickly made the decision to carry on working and not depend on grants/benefits/furlough. I'm lucky and grateful my job is pretty safe due to the industry I'm in so I just soldier on.
My Mom doesn't want me to visit her as she doesn't want to catch the flu after being scared sensless by the BBC and SKY news and I gracefully respect her wishes. I try to explain that there's a big difference between dying 'with' and dying 'from' the virus and it's highly unlikely she will catch it by taking a walk in the park but she still doesn't want to leave the house in fear of catching it. I'm obviously not being irresponsible either so I respect my Mom's and other peoples wishes if they choose to self isolate and avoid contact with other human beings.
I eat foods that boost my immune system, drink plenty of water, try to avoid people who obviously have a flu, use hand sanitiser if I've touched loads of stuff and get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. I do what I can to be sensible and that's all I can do, simply because I'm not putting my faith in a vaccine funded by Bill Gates or Rupert Murdoch that has even worse side effects. Herd immunity is better in the long run imo.
I find people are generally responsible, but obviously you do get the odd person
who is taking satisfaction from other peoples fear and uncomfort. There seems to be more armed police on the streets of Birmingham so maybe they will sort them out?
I don't believe everything said in the media, but I don't discount everything either.
It's sad people have died from this flu, but all throughout history people have died from all sorts of flu. Nature has a way of controlling the population naturally, it's really unfortunate that people have suffered.
I'm not trying to downplay how this situation has affected people because it has affected many people in many terrible and difficult ways, but, after researching both sides of the coin for myself I just use some common sense and take whatever precautions I can to try and avoid catching and spreading this flu.
We can all get through this, and not everyone will agree with my outlook, but, whatever road you choose please be safe.
Vamino2020-05-16 09:24:17
have knocked anyone for six, Shane can testify to that as I gave it to
him! I did warn him I had a bad flu beforehand though.
I'm surrounded by people all the time and there's nothing I can really do about it. I'm not living my life in fear. I quickly made the decision to carry on working and not depend on grants/benefits/furlough. I'm lucky and grateful my job is pretty safe due to the industry I'm in so I just soldier on.
My Mom doesn't want me to visit her as she doesn't want to catch the flu after being scared sensless by the BBC and SKY news and I gracefully respect her wishes. I try to explain that there's a big difference between dying 'with' and dying 'from' the virus and it's highly unlikely she will catch it by taking a walk in the park but she still doesn't want to leave the house in fear of catching it. I'm obviously not being irresponsible either so I respect my Mom's and other peoples wishes if they choose to self isolate and avoid contact with other human beings.
I eat foods that boost my immune system, drink plenty of water, try to avoid people who obviously have a flu, use hand sanitiser if I've touched loads of stuff and get plenty of fresh air and sunshine. I do what I can to be sensible and that's all I can do, simply because I'm not putting my faith in a vaccine funded by Bill Gates or Rupert Murdoch that has even worse side effects. Herd immunity is better in the long run imo.
I find people are generally responsible, but obviously you do get the odd person
who is taking satisfaction from other peoples fear and uncomfort. There seems to be more armed police on the streets of Birmingham so maybe they will sort them out?
I don't believe everything said in the media, but I don't discount everything either.
It's sad people have died from this flu, but all throughout history people have died from all sorts of flu. Nature has a way of controlling the population naturally, it's really unfortunate that people have suffered.
I'm not trying to downplay how this situation has affected people because it has affected many people in many terrible and difficult ways, but, after researching both sides of the coin for myself I just use some common sense and take whatever precautions I can to try and avoid catching and spreading this flu.
We can all get through this, and not everyone will agree with my outlook, but, whatever road you choose please be safe.
Vamino2020-05-16 09:24:17
Hyde Park today was filled with tree hugging lefty anti-brexit tosspots demanding their freedom back. Police only nicked about 20 of them. Our next peak is just a few weeks away.
Wonder how many of them were teachers on furlough? (the same ones who don't want the schools re-opened)
Ropi Jo2020-05-16 20:18:14
Wonder how many of them were teachers on furlough? (the same ones who don't want the schools re-opened)
Ropi Jo2020-05-16 20:18:14
John Bennett
Senior Member
Ropi Jo said:
Eh? Bit unnecessary.
Ropi Jo said:
No teachers are on furlough, we are all working. Making some sweeping judgements there
neo-geo-mvs
Active member
Ropi Jo said:
Teachers aren't furloughed
They are still working/teaching online lessons.
With the extra hours put in normally for free during term time, weekend, holidays then maybe the some what "normal" working hours 8.30am to 4pm can be enjoyed for a bit longer.
The main priority is the safety of all children and staff.
The main reason they want schools to reopen at the moment is for "baby sitting services".
Recommended no PPE for teachers, yet it's recommended for everybody else...
I think all key workers, shop workers, delivery drivers and anybody else keeping the country running just need a bit of love at the moment.
That's right, just babysitting.
We've had 2 letters from the school asking us if we really want to send them back so soon and telling us social distancing for the kids won't be good and they won't be allowed to play with their friends, they've given us questionnairess with leading questions inviting us to say we think it's not safe etc. Basically they're all but saying please don't send your kids back to school.
Just across the water from us, Liverpool have now said that their kids will not be going back to school on June 1st despite what the government have said.
We had already decided we wouldn't be sending out 10 year old back so soon anyway.
We've had 2 letters from the school asking us if we really want to send them back so soon and telling us social distancing for the kids won't be good and they won't be allowed to play with their friends, they've given us questionnairess with leading questions inviting us to say we think it's not safe etc. Basically they're all but saying please don't send your kids back to school.
Just across the water from us, Liverpool have now said that their kids will not be going back to school on June 1st despite what the government have said.
We had already decided we wouldn't be sending out 10 year old back so soon anyway.
neo-geo-mvs
Active member
_Matt_ said:
None of my nieces and nephew are going back. They're primary age and there's no chance of social distancing. Kids are too young to understand and don't need to be scared.
Well, beg to differ.
The 2 teachers next door, and the 2 teachers 2 doors the other way are all furloughed, and were all so proud to announce on VE day that they would see each other at Hyde Park next week.
What I cannot get around is their hypocrisy. They want 'freedom' from lockdown, but not at the expense of doing what they are being paid to do.
I am actually on their side regards opening schools. Untill there is a vaccinatition schools should remain shut. But they need to accept lockdown at the same time.
The idiots in Hyde Park and other similar events today are a hazard to my health.
And a hazard to the health of those police officers who had to deal with them
Ropi Jo2020-05-16 23:28:39
The 2 teachers next door, and the 2 teachers 2 doors the other way are all furloughed, and were all so proud to announce on VE day that they would see each other at Hyde Park next week.
What I cannot get around is their hypocrisy. They want 'freedom' from lockdown, but not at the expense of doing what they are being paid to do.
I am actually on their side regards opening schools. Untill there is a vaccinatition schools should remain shut. But they need to accept lockdown at the same time.
The idiots in Hyde Park and other similar events today are a hazard to my health.
And a hazard to the health of those police officers who had to deal with them
Ropi Jo2020-05-16 23:28:39
Dude you need to stop getting your "news" from the Daily Mail and/or your experience of two close households. There's definitely people the likes of which you describe but they're not all doing it, not all of a particular political or brexit stance, or all teachers or any other profession for that matter.
John Bennett
Senior Member
No ones arguing for the people in Hyde park.
John Bennett
Senior Member
For every idiot, there’s 10 sensible people. FACT
It’s sad that this virus has taken a divided country and made it even more divided. No one is doing it right it would seem.
I’d blame no one for fear either. All we’ve heard about is death, especially the young and the healthy. We’ve even got to witness the PM wind up in intensive care.
I can easily imagine how people’s mental health suffers too.
I doubt many are taking all this in their stride. But better the group hug mentality than anger (and brexit ?!)
It’s sad that this virus has taken a divided country and made it even more divided. No one is doing it right it would seem.
I’d blame no one for fear either. All we’ve heard about is death, especially the young and the healthy. We’ve even got to witness the PM wind up in intensive care.
I can easily imagine how people’s mental health suffers too.
I doubt many are taking all this in their stride. But better the group hug mentality than anger (and brexit ?!)
We live in a rural community by the sea. Normally, you don't see anyone you don't know out and about, apart from weekends during the summer. Since the lockdown, and the warning to only go out once a day, folks seem to have been taking it as an instruction - you must go out once a day! Lol! It's been swarming! But the supermarket is even worse. Don't think I've been more than once a fortnight. There has never been a problem with social distancing in the queue to go in. In fact, most people have made a big effort to stay much further apart. All good stuff. Once you get in the door, however, people seem to feel that they've done their bit - fulfilled their part of the contract, so to speak. It's almost as if they feel, that having waited 3 m apart in the queue to get in, it's fair does to get right up in your face in the shop itself. Sigh.
As for the kids going back to school, I'm having trouble wrapping my melon round how that would work. The kids have to get to school on a bus. The corridors in the school aren't more than 2m wide. Unless the number of kids in each class is reduced to 10 or 15, there's no way they can socially distance. Basically, as soon as any kids go back, everyone in every class will get infected. And OK, maybe most of the kids won't get Ill, but they'll pass it on to all the teachers and everyone at home. It's far too early to be risking any of that...
As for the kids going back to school, I'm having trouble wrapping my melon round how that would work. The kids have to get to school on a bus. The corridors in the school aren't more than 2m wide. Unless the number of kids in each class is reduced to 10 or 15, there's no way they can socially distance. Basically, as soon as any kids go back, everyone in every class will get infected. And OK, maybe most of the kids won't get Ill, but they'll pass it on to all the teachers and everyone at home. It's far too early to be risking any of that...
Teaching computer science is going to be a nightmare for me. Computers rammed in rooms, all doors are fire doors, so would need to be propped open. Corridors are mazes. Lack of soaps and gells. Cleaning computers between lessons, how we do that.
My class sizes would have to shrink from 30/31 to about 8/9 to maintain 2m.
Air con must stay off, summer is terrible in computer rooms, really makes you sleepy
Minimal toilet facilities.
Concerns me massively
My class sizes would have to shrink from 30/31 to about 8/9 to maintain 2m.
Air con must stay off, summer is terrible in computer rooms, really makes you sleepy
Minimal toilet facilities.
Concerns me massively
neo-geo-mvs
Active member
Social distancing is not going to be easy at secondary schools at all.
Most schools will adopt a phased return with year 10 and 12 students returning only. Students may go to 1 lesson per week for each subject for say A Level, have "face to face" with their teacher and have the remaining lessons online.
I can't see how they will manage GCSE with students sitting so many.
One way systems in corridors and communal areas closed (LRC/canteen).
Very tricky
Most schools will adopt a phased return with year 10 and 12 students returning only. Students may go to 1 lesson per week for each subject for say A Level, have "face to face" with their teacher and have the remaining lessons online.
I can't see how they will manage GCSE with students sitting so many.
One way systems in corridors and communal areas closed (LRC/canteen).
Very tricky