The price of outrun and others thread

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Body pop said:
We all like a good chat about the price of outrun and other cabs
So let’s have it here instead of on other people’s threads ?
The latest outrun has sold for 2169 on eBay ,that would be the highest I would imagine yet for a stand up
Do you think this trend will continue of price rises ?
It wasn’t that long ago I thought 1500 was crazy money for one ,but then when you compare the price of some new in sealed box console games ,then outrun and other cabs are a bit of a bargain still ?
Will outrun eventually overtake the likes of starwars in price ?
Let’s here your thoughts on why outrun is rising so quickly

Interestingly regarding price, that peak still seems the same 2 years on, and prices on a lot of other stuff has doubled in that time.

So good to reflect on these past discussions of the future, in the future to see what did happen.

It seems the slightly newer stuff is going up.

Out run 2, Hotd, Mortal Kombat + other midway cabs, Ridge racer, point blanks

Pcbs have gone up.
 

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A lot of asking prices ,especially for pcbs have went sky high
But are they all selling at that ?
It has always been the case of when selling a pcb ,you can never buy it back for the same you sold it for .but they were only going up 10 or 20 quid at a time .now they are jumping from something worth 100 to being listed at over 400
As for cabs ,the problem there is,if your selling something you have to pitch it high ,because if your wanting another cab ,your gonna have to pay that price to get it
I like to swap cabs ,but it’s hard to get a swap
Outrun has most likely peaked now. ,other stuff is hard to value as it doesn’t come up anymore
Maybe a lot of it is back in retro arcades which must be good ,but not so good for collectors Body pop2021-05-03 13:45:50
 

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I think there’s a lot more casual people coming into the scene which is probably driving board prices up.

Sunset riders was £90 about 2 years ago I sold one for £175 within seconds of listing months back.

Get the sense that there’s people semi committed that will buy a few boards but not a few cabs. Hence the boards going up in price quicker
 

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tbh i think the hobby has just gone daft, most people can go all out on once cab but dreaming of a collection - forget it unless you have serious wedge. much like model trains and classic cars this hobby is a reminisce of our youth once our generation gets sick of them then no one will care and they will all be scrap most boards and screens are time bombs along with damp cabs. lots have been stored in shipping containers for years , this isn't good for them then the new boys have to pay top dollar. spend what you can afford but i wouldn't advise trying to add more value on what his area a high price, i feel fingers are about to get burnt for some.
 

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I can understand games going up in price that have fairly unique controls, are rare, and are tricky to emulate well e.g driving games, shooters, star wars yoke, paperboy, cockpits etc. and then there's the games that continually build on popularity status e.g outrun (no one went mad for it 20 years ago when you could pick the cabs up for £150, but now it's expensive everyone wants one.)

What I struggle to understand is games like Simpsons, Turtles etc. that are games which are enjoyable for about 10mins, are generic Jamma/controls, and the cabs are pretty awful looking with big stickers stuck to the side of them. They are perfect games for your mame machine.

It's not about a hobby anymore, it's about collecting iconic things to put in your house/games room in an attempt to impress other people.
 

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As long as you're happy and comfortable getting what you want, why not? There are far worse things to be spending money and time on. I remember a bloke on here a while back and he had given up smoking in order to buy pcb's. He was convinced that pcbs were a great investment. Maybe they will be, maybe they won't, but far better than smoking!

I still play these games and I still get a kick out of it even if only for 15 minutes a go. Yes, even the likes of turtles and Simpsons.

Longer term, one factor I'd put into speculation is the potentially dramatic impact of a less physical world going forward. For many reasons, not all good, there is a push to own less and less, especially physically things. Rent this, rent that, "emulate" this thing, emulate that. All transient.

Much like how housing wasn't spared too much of a thought 30/40 years ago, now it's ridiculous to the point that the likes of grandparents find it very difficult to understand.

So, in the same vein, we might not appreciate the physical things around us so much now, but nothing screams physicality like a whopping gigantic arcade cabinet when compared to someone who's entire ownership of "stuff" can be put on a USB stick in the future. And they have a social element to them as well, again, something that's on the decline (pandemic not included).

That's my upside opinion on costs long-term. Equally, all arcade things could be relegated to worthless.

Bottom line, don't speculate too much and enjoy what you can within reason. I won't be spending 5k on an outrun, that's just me!
 

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It does beg the question how many working Outruns are there in the UK? How many were made for the UK? How many are there still working in the rest of Europe?

I wouldn't even count US Imports. They must have been modded to run on 240V AC.

It's like the Saturn Game Panzer Dragoon Saga. 12000 copies made, and that's all there'll ever be. Despite Sega's resources, or even Microsoft they're not interested in disassembling it, recreating the assets, rebuilding the game they claim they lost the source code to. I'm sure there's a market for it but if there is why don't they re-release a beautiful HD version?

Atari Falcons are another one. Not the best machine ever made. Hard to program. Hardly any games for it, some nice demos but when you add an accelerator to it is it still a Falcon? Still commands £1300-1500.
 

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Prices and valuations are all just a guessing game now
A lot of cabs have went up in price for no real reason
You only have to look at the valuations thread and you see cabs with opinions on prices that are thousands apart
With the amount of cabs coming from USA and other places ,the prices shouldn’t be rising so sharply
But I suppose they are rising sharply over there now and the days of getting a bargain there have now dropped too
Outrun listed for 5k just confuses the situation even more .
 

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If outrun uprights became standard price at 5k it would be worth Craig building a load of replica cabs, steering mech/pedals/shifter and plastics coupled with smartypi boards to run them or pc if you want more games

I certainly wouldn't pay these prices myself, for it to sit there doing nothing half the time. would be down replica route for my most wanted with mame or original boards.
 

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Do you think we might start seeing two different price bands for certain machines like OutRun, one price range for UK machines and a second price range for US imports ? Apart from power is there any reason technically why a UK machine could be preferred to US versions ?
 
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malcolmpenn said:
Do you think we might start seeing two different price bands for certain machines like OutRun, one price range for UK machines and a second price range for US imports ? Apart from power is there any reason technically why a UK machine could be preferred to US versions ?

I have followed 80's & 90's 2 stroke motorbikes for the last 15 years in the UK and an original "UK market" bike will always fetch more than an imported bike.

The argument there is that they were all built in the same factory but a UK machine is more collectable.

I would guess that would become the same for arcade machines. If you have 2 for sale, all being equal in condition and price, people would chose the UK machine.

Providing you are in the UK of course
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It's same for some cars, like those Mini Moke on Wheeler Dealers. UK ones worth far more than imported ones

Outrun I can't see it makes tons of difference, it's nice to have a cab that was once in a UK arcade and sold to this country but if there was double the price difference I'd take the cheap one any day

Back of cab rounded at top, artwork slightly different, they didn't have the oval artwork on front did they?

End of day it's pretty much same

I have pictures of a mint one sold over there years ago
 

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Ah was looking for info on the oval badge on the kick plate of a USA outrun compared to uk and stumbled across this thread ..interesting to look back at a few years later

Interesting in the way people say Covid prices ,but that’s not how I remember it or what this thread says from 2019
 

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Very interesting to re-read this, what a difference 5 years can make.
So prices were already rising and covid just accelerated the rise it seems. Definitely appears to have leveled out if not starting to dip.
I don’t however think prices will return to the level of 10-20 years ago……just yet!
 

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Less smaller cabs been made more retro arcades opening up + the home collectors market.

Maybe retro will fall out of fashion & then stuff will be cheap again.
 
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