Time Pilot bootleg - rom trouble

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I have a non-working Time Pilot bootleg and have a bit of a problem in that one of the eproms is blank. I've checked the other eproms and some match up with Mame dumped roms, and some do not. I'm not sure if this set hasn't been dumped or if they are iffy.

Does anyone have a similar board to this? I can't see any obvious markings for who made it.

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stevebm1 said:
is it completely dead?,if so I doubt it's an eprom issue,most boards will at least boot to something,even with 1 eprom removed
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No it isn't dead, it boots to garbage and reguarly resets (I think). Occasional garbage sounds as well.

I just know one of the eproms is blank so can't be right.
 
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AnDyC said:
I have one of these pcbs
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Great! Do you have the ability to read the eproms? Would you mind reading the one in my picture which doesn't have a label on?

Out of interest have you ever compared the roms to the Mame sets? The ones in my pic with a blank label do not match any in Mame...I'm unsure if that's as they are not in Mame, or if the roms are corrupt.
 
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minwah said:
Lurch666 said:
Have you checked against the space pilot roms in mame?

That one is a time pilot bootleg.
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Yeah, I ran it through this which checks it against all the known dumps:

http://www.arcaderestoration.com/RomIdentification.aspx
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The thing with bootlegs is they can contain slight variances in code-just a few bytes here and there that doesn't stop them from working but will not match any roms in mame.

If I was you I would try burning the space pilot roms to a spare set of eproms and try them to see if they work.
 
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Lurch666 said:
If I was you I would try burning the space pilot roms to a spare set of eproms and try them to see if they work.
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I think I considered that a while ago but couldn't be sure which roms went where on my board, since the positions are different.
 
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I got my tp out of storage and dumped it, its near identical to yours.

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so i went to dump rom 1 and its toast :(

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i dumped the rest of the roms and ran them through mame

Code: 
C:mame>mame64.exe -romident timepilot.7z

Identifying timepilot.7z....

2.bin               = tm2                   timeplt    Time Pilot

3.bin               = tm3                   timeplt    Time Pilot

4.bin               = tm7                   spaceplt   Space Pilot

                    = tm7                   timeplt    Time Pilot

                    = tm7                   timeplta   Time Pilot (Atari)

                    = tm7                   timepltc   Time Pilot (Centuri)

5.bin               = tm6                   timeplt    Time Pilot

                    = tm6                   timeplta   Time Pilot (Atari)

                    = tm6                   timepltc   Time Pilot (Centuri)

6.bin               = tm4                   timeplt    Time Pilot

                    = tm4                   timeplta   Time Pilot (Atari)

                    = tm4                   timepltc   Time Pilot (Centuri)

7.bin               = tm5                   psurge     Power Surge

                    = tm5                   spaceplt   Space Pilot

                    = tm5                   timeplt    Time Pilot

                    = tm5                   timeplta   Time Pilot (Atari)

                    = tm5                   timepltc   Time Pilot (Centuri)

and romcmp

Code: 
C:mame>romcmp.exe timepilot.7z timeplt.zip

6 and 11 files

                        timeplt.b5              FIXED BITS (xxxxxxx0)

                        timeplt.e12             FIXED BITS (0000xxxx)

                        timeplt.e9              FIXED BITS (0000xxxx)

2.bin                   tm2                     IDENTICAL

3.bin                   tm3                     IDENTICAL

4.bin                   tm7                     IDENTICAL

5.bin                   tm6                     IDENTICAL

6.bin                   tm4                     IDENTICAL

7.bin                   tm5                     IDENTICAL

                        timeplt.b4              NO MATCH

                        timeplt.b5              NO MATCH

                        timeplt.e12             NO MATCH

                        timeplt.e9              NO MATCH

                        tm1                     NO MATCH
 
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most likeley using the tm1 -7 roms from mame will work, I could test this for you but I will need to make a tp>jamma adapter
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AnDyC said:
most likeley using the tm1 -7 roms from mame will work, I could test this for you but I will need to make a tp>jamma adapter
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That's brilliant, thanks very much for going to the trouble of dumping the roms.

Bummer about rom 1, but I'm sure you are right about tm1-7. My board has tm6 & tm7 already so will try programming tm1-5 and see what happens...

Thanks again!
 
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Ok then...I think the roms are working. I can see test grid and title screen (both with alternate missing/grey lines) and then it resets. I'm pretty confident the roms are ok, but the board has other faults.

I'm looking to get rid of the board so if anyone is interested in it for spares or repair then let me know.
 
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