Troubleshooting ABI Boardmaster 4000

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my board is efferent i am sending the photos of the same.
is the crystal 8MHZ is ok.
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Hi there, I'm new to this forum (from USA) but I have two of these units in working condition. One unit I replaced the cracked display with a retrofit LCD I put together that fits inside the original housing. But that's not the reason for my post. What I want to say is on the two switchmode supplies I replaced ALL the electrolytic capacitors. I used my Sencore LC103 and 80% of the original caps were bad or out of spec. I found replacing these caps to be very important for the health of the Boardmaster 4000 -overall. I made sure that I had date codes from this century too,
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I used Nichicon capacitors for everything. 105C rating. They datecode their caps and you can request date coded caps made within the last year. 2019/2020. Next I cleaned up the pcb and replaced the two surface mount caps on the Hitachi Inverter INVC158. If you do these simple house keeping things it is going to save you a lot of headaches down the road. Its awesome that there are people out there still using these units. . I Just don't have keyboards for my two units.
 

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What lcd did you retrofit? the same type it originally had? I have a really early version with no lcd that I connected up to a multi sync benq monitor, it works pretty well.

As for the keyboard I found one that could be modded to work but I think all stock has dried up now. Keyboard collectors like to buy them and then wreck them by pulling all the keycaps off, because they have old cherry switches.
 

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Colins said:
Hi there, I'm new to this forum (from USA) but I have two of these units in working condition. One unit I replaced the cracked display with a retrofit LCD I put together that fits inside the original housing. But that's not the reason for my post. What I want to say is on the two switchmode supplies I replaced ALL the electrolytic capacitors. I used my Sencore LC103 and 80% of the original caps were bad or out of spec. I found replacing these caps to be very important for the health of the Boardmaster 4000 -overall. I made sure that I had date codes from this century too,
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I used Nichicon capacitors for everything. 105C rating. They datecode their caps and you can request date coded caps made within the last year. 2019/2020. Next I cleaned up the pcb and replaced the two surface mount caps on the Hitachi Inverter INVC158. If you do these simple house keeping things it is going to save you a lot of headaches down the road. Its awesome that there are people out there still using these units. . I Just don't have keyboards for my two units.

Don't suppose you made a list or cap map did you? I think I need to do this sooner rather than later.

Welcome to the forum btw :)

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Ace` said:
What lcd did you retrofit? the same type it originally had? I have a really early version with no lcd that I connected up to a multi sync benq monitor, it works pretty well.

As for the keyboard I found one that could be modded to work but I think all stock has dried up now. Keyboard collectors like to buy them and then wreck them by pulling all the keycaps off, because they have old cherry switches.

Hey, I'm a (reformed) keyboard collector but I wouldn't ever destroy anything rare! Anyway, didn't the Boardmaster boards have ALPS switches?!
 

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Maybe but the keyboard uses cherry, the pcb is even marked cherry.

I think I have a list some where of the caps needed DanP, it turned out to be an off the shelf psu that is still available from various sellers today.
 

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Oh - then the board I'm thinking of isn't an ABI board. Most mech boards use Cherry switches, and they were probably clear switches on the Boardmaster boards, and the classic beige doubleshot caps. It's no wonder they're scarce, sadly.
 

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I found what I think is the complete cap list for the BM4K power supply.

150uf 35v
470uf 10v
1000uf 10v x3
180uf 35v
47uf 16v x2
4.7uf 50v
22uf 35v
56uf 35v

All Nichicon 105c high quality, still about half of the high voltage ones had started to leak.

Going from memory I *think* ABI used two different power supplies over the course of making BM4Ks but this list is for the more common one.
 

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The list above is correct but missing 68uf 400v x2

I recapped mine today after putting it off for too long, it's a real pain getting the power supply off the metal frame in the boardmaster.

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Sounds like it was working since the seller said it beeps which it wouldn't do if it wasn't booting up. Add a BenQ monitor and make a ribbon cable and the winner has a working BM4k. So not a bad price imo.

I don't know what a known working one with screen would go for these days, it's been so long since I've seen one up for sale.
 

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I'm sure it still beeps if it fails on self test though?

I would hazard a guess that a complete one would.fetch in excess of 1k these days. Equites2020-05-23 20:49:40
 

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Mine beeps on startup, I guess it could be failing self test but that would at least mean it's booting.
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I wouldn't part with mine, not even for 1k it's far too useful.
 

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well I see this last Tuesday so very quickly bought it! Its a faulty one for that price, BUT it IS complete. I thought at the very least there are spares! the lcd back I can use for the one I have now! (but that doesn't like the cold now so that needs psu caps doing I think)

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Just to complete my post preceding this one, the unit kicked and screamed not wanting to be repaired, But I finally beat it! It had faults on the main PCB and the LCD cpu sub board. It really was not a easy repair and took nearly 6 weeks to complete.

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